As many of you know, I used to watch Gotham but it drove me to frothing fits of outrage and led me to spend the week venting about how awful it all is, so I stopped

Today, however, I need to know something, and I'm asking the fans who had far more patience than I did.

Did Jim Gordon -- or Harvey Bullock, or anybody else -- solve the murders of Thomas and Martha Wayne?

It's a detail I need to know for a piece I'm doing. I may drop some other questions, too.

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IIRC, the Court of Owls killed the Wayne's because Thomas (who was member*) opposed their goals. Someone else should probably confirm this for you.

*I haven't read the comics about the Court of Owls, so I don't know if Thomas Wayne was a member in the comics.

The Court of Owls had them killed, but I don't recall whether or not the GCPD officially solved the case.

I think Bruce was satisfied that they did it and the prime movers didn't survive. I don't think the GCPD was involved. Also the actual shooter was Matches Malone, who in the comics was just an undercover identity for Batman.

Thanks, guys. It just helps me understand what I'm writing about. 

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Richard Willis said:

...Matches Malone, who in the comics was just an undercover identity for Batman.

I'm not sure where I read this, and my memory may be mistaken.  However, I seem to recall that, in the comics, Matches was a real person whose identity Bats took over after the original was killed in an underworld hit.  Possibly written by Denny O'Neill, with art by Irv Novick?
 

Peter, your recollection was better than mine. As always, the characters are more complicated. Here's a DC Wiki summary of the character.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Matches_Malone_(New_Earth)



Peter Wrexham said:

Richard Willis said:

...Matches Malone, who in the comics was just an undercover identity for Batman.

I'm not sure where I read this, and my memory may be mistaken.  However, I seem to recall that, in the comics, Matches was a real person whose identity Bats took over after the original was killed in an underworld hit.  Possibly written by Denny O'Neill, with art by Irv Novick?

 

Almost but not quite right. Matches Malone was killed in his first appearance in Batman #242 (August 1972), in the multi-part tale that introduced Ra's al-Ghul, who then was a mysterious, new adversary who had an edge -- he knew Batman's secret identity.

Batman fakes Bruce Wayne's death and puts together a team to go after Ra's on his home turf. Why he needed Matches Malone for this is not clear, and it becomes moot anyway, because when he approaches Malone about this while Malone is dining at his favorite restaurant, Malone thinks Batman is there to apprehend him. While trying to escape from Batman, Malone fires a shot that ricochets around the restaurant kitchen and kills him dead.

From there, Batman keeps recruiting the other people for his team, and impersonates Malone. Even when I first read those stories, I couldn't understand why Batman did that, because none of the other people being recruited for this mission knew Malone at all. See here: "Matches Malone (Earth-One)"


That link above to the DC Wikia is a post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour, post-everything else version of Matches Malone's story.

Oops! It didn't occur to me that they had revised the character and pretended that the latest version was the only one. 

ClarkKent_DC said:

That link above to the DC Wikia is a post-Crisis, post-Zero Hour, post-everything else version of Matches Malone's story.

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