He's being replaced by a character who, at least by the illustration, appears to be either Asian or of Asian descent.

I'll be honest, I never was that into the character, so that if they replace him, it won't bother me.  However, are there hardcore Randoholics here who are crushed by this news?

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The original Iron Fist was heroically beaten to death in his sleep (but he got better). 

This I had not heard about.

Jeff of Earth-J said:

The original Iron Fist was heroically beaten to death in his sleep (but he got better). 

Would I lie?

They said the same thing about Hal Jordan, and there was no hue and cry to bring him back, right?

My cynical side says to me that this will be undone--either the new character will be unpopular and wind up in limbo, or something will happen that necessitates Danny taking over the role again. 

Maybe they'll double-down and have it be Shang-Chi!

I'm not sure that Danny Rand has the same kind of fanbase that Hal Jordan does (or did back in the day, at least) . I guess we'll see.

Randy Jackson said:

They said the same thing about Hal Jordan, and there was no hue and cry to bring him back, right?

My cynical side says to me that this will be undone--either the new character will be unpopular and wind up in limbo, or something will happen that necessitates Danny taking over the role again. 

I don't know about Hal Jordan but they did it with Ray Palmer.

I've always liked Danny Rand, but I wouldn't say I'm crushed by this news.

Remember they had a new Power Man a few years ago? Is he still around?

I suspect that Marvel did this because the notion of a white guy who steps into another culture and becomes a hero in that culture -- like Iron Fist, Firehair, Scalphunter, Karate Kid, to name a few -- might have been something they could get away with back in the day, but looks increasingly ugly in current times.

Worse, for some of these types of characters, there's no fixing them. (Here's looking at you, Tarzan. I recall Disney's animated Tarzan that was set in an Africa with no Africans in it.)

Then again, Avatar was a big hit, so what do I know? 

Maybe they'll double-down and have it be Shang-Chi!

I doubt it. Shang-Chi made them a lot of money. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Then again, Avatar was a big hit, so what do I know? 

Without rewatching it, I recall that the white guy in question just joined the blue guys group without leading it, and looked like them when he did it. All the other Earthmen, white and otherwise, were scumbag murdering mercenaries.

Richard Willis said:

Then again, Avatar was a big hit, so what do I know? 

Without rewatching it, I recall that the white guy in question just joined the blue guys group without leading it, and looked like them when he did it. All the other Earthmen, white and otherwise, were scumbag murdering mercenaries.

Without rewatching it ... well, my thoughts are here:

ClarkKent_DC said:

I tend to overdose on movie reviews for a movie I'm interested in seeing -- I'm not one of those people who actively avoids reviews, and Rotten Tomatoes is a dangerous place for me -- but one knock against Avatar was that it was, basically, a high-tech Dances With Wolves, and I couldn't shake that thought. And the sight of a White outsider who infiltrates a pure, peaceable culture and leads the invaders right to its most vulnerable point and then changes his mind, joins the culture and becomes their leader was just as offensive here as it was in Kevin Costner's movie. I'm sorry, but, remorseful as he was, he was still a spy who led the invaders to destroy one of their most sacred icons. After the battle was won, they should have slit his friggin' throat.

I don't really care about Danny Rand one way or the other, who falls into the white savior trope and whose origin isn't particularly original. And given that  Iron Fist is a title rather than a name, is easily replaceable. In fact, my favorite Iron Fist comics are the ones that star Orson Randall, who, while still white, isn't Danny Rand.

As for Avatar, it had the best F/X I'd seen to that time, but I still hated the movie for the reasons CK cites, and probably the white savior trope also. I don't actually recall; I wiped the movie from my hard drive once I'd seen what the fuss was all about. And I will NOT be watching the sequels. (At the theater, anyway.)

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