They started a new adventure in the strip today -though I am going to miss the space coupe and such- featuring Lee, a black female officer. Got me thinking, I remember reading Dick Tracy for the first time as a kid and the strip then featured Liz held captive on a boat by someone, I can't remember more than that but I do do remember vaguely the Dick Tracy cartoon show and the controversy that surrounded it a few years back when the movie came out and they wouldn't release the cartoons. Can anyone tell me when Liz and Lee came along?
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The 1961 Dick Tracy cartoon was not being shown in the 80s but not because of Liz and Lee. It was because two of Tracy's comic sidekicks, the Mexican Go-Go Gomez and the Japanese Joe Jitsu were deemed racial stereotypes.
Of course, it could have been because the cartoons were just plain bad!
Lizz (two z’s) Worthington was introduced in the mid-50’s (I wanna say 1955). Her fiancé (or prehaps newlywed husband) was killed by gangsters, prompting her to join the plainclothes squad. (For all intents and purposes, she replaced Tess Trueheart, who was more active in the strip prior to marrying Dick Tracy.)
Lee Ebony was introduced by Max Alan Collins in the late ‘70s or early ‘80s after Chester Gould’s retirement.
The storyline you’re thinking of is one of Gould’s last, circa 1976/77. The villain is Puckerpuss, whose gimmick was a denture gun. The boat he stole after kidnapping Lizz belonged to a singing group known as “The Gallstones” and led Tracy into his next case.
Those cartoons are available on DVD (two single discs, sold separately).
The storyline you’re thinking of is one of Gould’s last, circa 1976/77. The villain is Puckerpuss, whose gimmick was a denture gun. The boat he stole after kidnapping Lizz belonged to a singing group known as “The Gallstones” and led Tracy into his next case.
Maybe you're the person who can answer a question for me then, since the Pucker Puss storyline has puzzled me for years.
Before I begin, though, I need to say I was a huge fan of Dick Tracy as a kid during the '70s. I even collected the Crimestoppers seen on Sundays every week! Yet, for some reason, I didn't follow the whole story arc that I mentioned above. I remember fetching Lizz being kidnapped and later on a boat in a bikini (was it a bikini? was she wearing one underneath her clothes or was that her underwear? - 11-year-old me was very interested and confused about this back in '76 :-), but I haven't seen a detailed plot outline anywhere on the Internet. If you could help me, that would be great. Thanks in advance.
The 1961 Dick Tracy cartoon was not being shown in the 80s but not because of Liz and Lee. It was because two of Tracy's comic sidekicks, the Mexican Go-Go Gomez and the Japanese Joe Jitsu were deemed racial stereotypes.
Of course, it could have been because the cartoons were just plain bad!
I can remember watching them in the '70s, so I guess they weren't considered that offensive back then (surprisingly, they aired on Time-Warner Cable only a few years ago). They did censor some old Bugs Bunny cartoons at that time, but they were really, really offensive. When I saw some of the latter a few years ago in their original form, it was quite shocking.
As for the quality of the Dick Tracy shorts, I liked them a lot as a kid, but they really weren't that good in retrospect. Still nice seeing Flattop, Pruneface, Itchy, etc. in animated form, however.
...I remember that the UPA Tracys showed up on MTV about the time of the Beatty film (Perhaps they censored them a little , I don't know .) .
I do remember an ID/bumper , for those showings of the show , with Tracy saying ..." And now for more great videos !!!!! " , or similar (Said over a bumper that , in the original series , was "...cartoons !!!!!" or similar . .) .
I wonder who dubbed those lines ???????
I also remember the original SPEED RACER series showing on MTV for a while , about that same early 90s period :-) .
I also remember the original SPEED RACER series showing on MTV for a while , about that same early 90s period :-) .
Speed Racer aired on WPIX in NY during the early '70s.That was the first bit of anime (never heard that term until the '90s, FWIW) I ever saw, too. It then could be seen on UHF station WWHT during the late '70s-early '80s. Loved that show (and theme song!)
...Was that Gallstones sequence one I remember involving a Manhattan Tranfer-ish (well , mixed male/female , so...) singing group who were " The Harvard/Cornell Sensations !!! " in the strip or something like that ???
About 1973/4 my early teenage self started thinking , " Well , I'm a comics fan . We get the NY Sunday News , with comics section , every week . So , I might as well read every strip in there . " , rather than pick some , as I'd done before .
So I did . Except for Rex Morgan , M.D.
I just could not bring myself to read that one !!! Jeff of Earth-J said:
Lizz (two z’s) Worthington was introduced in the mid-50’s (I wanna say 1955). Her fiancé (or prehaps newlywed husband) was killed by gangsters, prompting her to join the plainclothes squad. (For all intents and purposes, she replaced Tess Trueheart, who was more active in the strip prior to marrying Dick Tracy.)
Lee Ebony was introduced by Max Alan Collins in the late ‘70s or early ‘80s after Chester Gould’s retirement.
The storyline you’re thinking of is one of Gould’s last, circa 1976/77. The villain is Puckerpuss, whose gimmick was a denture gun. The boat he stole after kidnapping Lizz belonged to a singing group known as “The Gallstones” and led Tracy into his next case.
Those cartoons are available on DVD (two single discs, sold separately).
About 1973/4 my early teenage self started thinking , " Well , I'm a comics fan . We get the NY Sunday News , with comics section , every week . So , I might as well read every strip in there . " , rather than pick some , as I'd done before .
So I did . Except for Rex Morgan , M.D.
I just could not bring myself to read that one !!!
I never got into that one, either. Same goes for Mary Worth and Mary Perkins, On Stage.
Our family got the Daily News, too, though my parents also started getting the Sunday Newsday during the mid-'70s. By the early '80s, we were getting both papers every day.
...So you were a Long Island/Strong Island/Lon Guyland:-) lad ????????
I'm from Westchester County , " so boring (& rich) we don't NEED a steenkin' lower-class nickname " !!!!!!!!!!!
We got the Westchester County newspaper (which didn't issue a Sunday then) home-delivered to us , and bought the NY Times and the News on Sunday , every week like clockwork .
Bought , not delivered , however .
My parents' " Sunday-paper-w/comics " choice before that in the Sixties had been the NY JOURNAL-AMERICAN , from Hearst (my father had worked at a Hearst paper in San Antonio that doesn't exist anymore) , then , when it merged into the awkwardly monickered WORLD JOURNAL TRIBUNE , that , then , after that quickly folded , the News was really the only Sunday-funnies game in Fun City .
Actually , around the early Seventies , we did fairly regularly buy as well a Sunday-only paper that , among other names , went under the name of the NEW YORK COLUMN which was essentially an excuse to gather a bunch of other comics (& features) that had been orphaned by NYC going from , seven?? was it , newspapers in the beginning of the Sixties to two Sundays by the end (plus the NEW YORK POST ~ pre-Murdoch ~ which , then , did not publish a Sunday perhaps sensibly ducking out on the Sunday competition and perhaps catering to their perceived core audience with a Saturday " Weekend Edition " , with their few comics carried - including PEANUTS - in b&w and no Saturday installment) ~ by its last days the Column called itself the NEW YORK COMICS and its non-comics center part consisted of four pages of puzzles , methinks ! Geez , I wonder if even the NY Public Library - the Library of Congress ? - has any copies of this paper .
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The 1961 Dick Tracy cartoon was not being shown in the 80s but not because of Liz and Lee. It was because two of Tracy's comic sidekicks, the Mexican Go-Go Gomez and the Japanese Joe Jitsu were deemed racial stereotypes.
Of course, it could have been because the cartoons were just plain bad!
I don't remember them that much. I remember they had the flying baskets back then, but that's about it.
Lizz (two z’s) Worthington was introduced in the mid-50’s (I wanna say 1955). Her fiancé (or prehaps newlywed husband) was killed by gangsters, prompting her to join the plainclothes squad. (For all intents and purposes, she replaced Tess Trueheart, who was more active in the strip prior to marrying Dick Tracy.)
Lee Ebony was introduced by Max Alan Collins in the late ‘70s or early ‘80s after Chester Gould’s retirement.
The storyline you’re thinking of is one of Gould’s last, circa 1976/77. The villain is Puckerpuss, whose gimmick was a denture gun. The boat he stole after kidnapping Lizz belonged to a singing group known as “The Gallstones” and led Tracy into his next case.
Those cartoons are available on DVD (two single discs, sold separately).
Jeff of Earth-J said:
Maybe you're the person who can answer a question for me then, since the Pucker Puss storyline has puzzled me for years.
Before I begin, though, I need to say I was a huge fan of Dick Tracy as a kid during the '70s. I even collected the Crimestoppers seen on Sundays every week! Yet, for some reason, I didn't follow the whole story arc that I mentioned above. I remember fetching Lizz being kidnapped and later on a boat in a bikini (was it a bikini? was she wearing one underneath her clothes or was that her underwear? - 11-year-old me was very interested and confused about this back in '76 :-), but I haven't seen a detailed plot outline anywhere on the Internet. If you could help me, that would be great. Thanks in advance.
Philip Portelli said:
I can remember watching them in the '70s, so I guess they weren't considered that offensive back then (surprisingly, they aired on Time-Warner Cable only a few years ago). They did censor some old Bugs Bunny cartoons at that time, but they were really, really offensive. When I saw some of the latter a few years ago in their original form, it was quite shocking.
As for the quality of the Dick Tracy shorts, I liked them a lot as a kid, but they really weren't that good in retrospect. Still nice seeing Flattop, Pruneface, Itchy, etc. in animated form, however.
...I remember that the UPA Tracys showed up on MTV about the time of the Beatty film (Perhaps they censored them a little , I don't know .) .
I do remember an ID/bumper , for those showings of the show , with Tracy saying ..." And now for more great videos !!!!! " , or similar (Said over a bumper that , in the original series , was "...cartoons !!!!!" or similar . .) .
I wonder who dubbed those lines ???????
I also remember the original SPEED RACER series showing on MTV for a while , about that same early 90s period :-) .
Emerkeith Davyjack said:
Speed Racer aired on WPIX in NY during the early '70s.That was the first bit of anime (never heard that term until the '90s, FWIW) I ever saw, too. It then could be seen on UHF station WWHT during the late '70s-early '80s. Loved that show (and theme song!)
...Was that Gallstones sequence one I remember involving a Manhattan Tranfer-ish (well , mixed male/female , so...) singing group who were " The Harvard/Cornell Sensations !!! " in the strip or something like that ???
About 1973/4 my early teenage self started thinking , " Well , I'm a comics fan . We get the NY Sunday News , with comics section , every week . So , I might as well read every strip in there . " , rather than pick some , as I'd done before .
So I did . Except for Rex Morgan , M.D.
I just could not bring myself to read that one !!!
Jeff of Earth-J said:
Emerkeith Davyjack said:
I never got into that one, either. Same goes for Mary Worth and Mary Perkins, On Stage.
Our family got the Daily News, too, though my parents also started getting the Sunday Newsday during the mid-'70s. By the early '80s, we were getting both papers every day.
...So you were a Long Island/Strong Island/Lon Guyland:-) lad ????????
I'm from Westchester County , " so boring (& rich) we don't NEED a steenkin' lower-class nickname " !!!!!!!!!!!
We got the Westchester County newspaper (which didn't issue a Sunday then) home-delivered to us , and bought the NY Times and the News on Sunday , every week like clockwork .
Bought , not delivered , however .
My parents' " Sunday-paper-w/comics " choice before that in the Sixties had been the NY JOURNAL-AMERICAN , from Hearst (my father had worked at a Hearst paper in San Antonio that doesn't exist anymore) , then , when it merged into the awkwardly monickered WORLD JOURNAL TRIBUNE , that , then , after that quickly folded , the News was really the only Sunday-funnies game in Fun City .
Actually , around the early Seventies , we did fairly regularly buy as well a Sunday-only paper that , among other names , went under the name of the NEW YORK COLUMN which was essentially an excuse to gather a bunch of other comics (& features) that had been orphaned by NYC going from , seven?? was it , newspapers in the beginning of the Sixties to two Sundays by the end (plus the NEW YORK POST ~ pre-Murdoch ~ which , then , did not publish a Sunday perhaps sensibly ducking out on the Sunday competition and perhaps catering to their perceived core audience with a Saturday " Weekend Edition " , with their few comics carried - including PEANUTS - in b&w and no Saturday installment) ~ by its last days the Column called itself the NEW YORK COMICS and its non-comics center part consisted of four pages of puzzles , methinks ! Geez , I wonder if even the NY Public Library - the Library of Congress ? - has any copies of this paper .
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