1)"She didn't."

 

2)"You've redecorated. I don't like it."  A callback to "The Three Doctors".

 

3)"Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All".

 

4)"I'm the Doctor. I work in a shop."

 

5)"Silver rat" - a Cybermat?

 

6)So,Amy's a famous model now?

 

7)"Petrichor - for the girl who's tired of waiting" - Ho-ho-ho.

 

8)Cybermats have teeth now?

 

9)"Alfie, why is there a sinister beeping coming from behind me?"

 

10)"Come along, Bitey."

 

11)"This ship crashed here centuries ago." 

 

12)"What is happening, you metal moron?"

 

13)"You blew them up with love."

 

14)"Doctor."

 

Overall:  Probably the best story of this last half-series, although it would be nice to see the Cybermen get a bigger role sometime. Be nice to see an encounter between the "Pete's World" Cybermen and the "main timeline" Cybermen.

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It was fantasic, expect for the resolution.

So does every season now have to deal with the Doctor wearily facing up to his own death at the end?  And with the Doctor realising that he can't take these companions with him anymore?  I guess one season it really will be the lead up to the end, so they'll get it right sometime.

 

Doctor Who has become very 'DVD boxset' since Moffatt took over.  Even the first double-episode of this series would be difficult for a non-devotee to follow and we aren't really given much then or during the season to show us why we should care for these characters, beyond having followed them for two seasons now.  All the continuity in each episode is offputting for non-devotees.

 

'DVD Boxset' is all very well (the only way to watch good television perhaps), but I don't think Moffat's Who quite performs there either.  Each episode does leapfrog over sensible logical plotting to give us a series of wow! moments that don't really make sense when you start to think about them.  DVD boxset watchers tend to relish watertight plotting and good story-structuring, not to mention joined-up character evolution.  Aren't Amy and Rory very sanguine about the abusive childhood their kidnapped daughter fell into?  There was nothing onscreen until the last few episodes of Moffat's first season to show that Amy felt anything worthwhile for poor old Rory either.

 

It's great if people are enjoying this version of Doctor Who, but sadly the enjoyment seems to be draining away for me...

 

Amy becoming a major model out of the blue is just pandering to the X-factor level of silliness that seems to run through society these days, that states that anybody can be a celebrity if (when - ha ha!) they just get lucky.  Amy becoming a highly-paid model is the best reflection of X-factor culture, because she is reinforcing the popular notion that anyone can become rich and famous without actually doing anything. 

 

So Amy can be a highly paid model AND someone who can reverse engineer impossible Timelord technology just by seeing it work a few times and having a few decades to fiddle around with electronics on her own. Quite the woman Rory has snagged there.

One thing the new show has had alot more of - and it started under RTD, I wouldn't exclusively blame Moffat - is a good deal of "magical thinking", characters just sort of suddenly acquiring knowledge or abilities without really any storyline basis for them doing so. It's like just being around the Doctor makes them super-geniuses.  Which maybe is one of the Doctor's new powers, I don't know. I often think that this is a result of the fanboys getting ahold of the show. Both Davies and Moffat seem to have a tendency to like producing "fanboy moments" (i.e., "Ooh, what if the Daleks fought the Cybermen?", "What if the Doctor got a girlfriend?" and so on), at the expense of actually stopping to explain "How did he/she know/do that?" I also blame the new format, to an extent. They have much less time to tell a story, so they have much less time to give explanations. I'm not particularly sure how to resolve that.  I'm certainly not calling for a return to the old format - I don't think it would work in this day and age, and let's face it, alot of the old stories -virtually anyhting over a four-parter- were pretty padded.  I do think they should do away with this business of every season having an overarching "story arc". For me, it tends to lessen the impact of the individual stories, which now seem to exist only as lead-ins to the season finales.
So,Amy's a famous model now?

Yeah, they didn’t stay gone for very long, did they?

Cybermats have teeth now?

And Daleks can fly. :)


After season five, I said that I like RTD’s Doctor Who more than SM’s, and speculated that I would like it more as the ratio increased from 4:1. Now that it’s 4:2, I still like RTD’s Doctor Who more than SM’s. Love the Eleventh Doctor, Amy and Rory as much as 9/10 Rose, Martha and Donna, though.

So,Amy's a famous model now?

Yeah, they didn’t stay gone for very long, did they?


What didn't stay gone for long?

And why does the Petrichor ad mention both the Petrichor code-sensation and reference Amy's waiting in that earlier episode?

Considering only she and Rory knew about those things, did she invent a whole new perfume as well that took off and she got to market it too?

Some woman for one woman...

Otherwise is the universe talking to the Doctor again like Bad Wolf? Bad Wolf was Ok so long as you didn't think about it too much, but once was enough.

Figserello said:
What didn't stay gone for long?

Amy and Rory. wasn't it just the previous episode in which the Doctor cut them loose? Then they have a cameo in the very next episode and they're back for the season finale.

...someone who can reverse engineer impossible Timelord technology just by seeing it work a few times and having a few decades to fiddle around with electronics on her own...

 

I was watching some of the old show and thinkibng about this story, and it occurred to me that something that might have ameliorated this a bit for me would have been any kind of foreshadowing at all, even just a throwaway scene of the Doctor showing Amy how the sonic screwdriver works, and saying something like, "Wow, you really have an aptitude for this" or something along those lines. Sort of like the occasional scenes where we'd see that the Fourth Doctor was teaching Leela how to read or use the scientific method and so on.

Each episode does leapfrog over sensible logical plotting to give us a series of wow! moments that don't really make sense when you start to think about them.

Well put. Setting aside for a moment “DVD Boxset Thinking,” RTD and SM must have known the level of scrutiny these episodes would be subject to simply by virtue of the franchise. I’m still working out my “River Song Timeline” but I’ve come to realize there’s a second one in my head, too: “The Death of the Doctor.” I’m not ready to post yet, but in the meantime I will continue to work out some of my thoughts in public on these individual episode discussion threads.

[SPOILERS for “The Time of Angels,” “Flesh and Stone” and “The Impossible Astronaut” as well as for “Closing Time.”] In “The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone” River Song has already been incarcerated at the Stormcage Containment Facility for killing the Doctor, yet when Amy refers to her as “Dr. Song” she affects surprise. In “Closing Time,” however, Madame Kovarian abducts River Song, puts her in the space suit and takes her to Lake Silencio just prior to “The Impossible Astronaut” on the day she earned her doctorate. [END SPOILERS]

Am I just wasting my time trying to make sense of this?



Jeff of Earth-J said:

Am I just wasting my time trying to make sense of this?

 

 

Not at all if you're enjoying it - and who knows, you may yet teach the horse to sing.



Jeff of Earth-J said:

 yet when Amy refers to her as “Dr. Song” she affects surprise.

 

 

Wasn't it that she called her "Professor Song" there?

Oh, dear... I think I'm confusing myself.

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