Doctor Who Reactions: "The Seeds of Doom" (SPOILERS)

Part One:

1) Wow, there's alot of good dialogue in this - it's really quite snappily written.

 

2)Chase is one of my favorite Doctor Who baddies, as well.

 

3)It's also very atmospheric and well-acted.

 

4)The Doctor claims to be 749 here.

 

5)Cliffhanger #1:  Winlett attacks Moberly!

 

Part Two:

6)Someone painted an Axon green!

 

7)"Turn around, Doctor. Facing this way."

 

8)Cliffhanger #2: The base explodes!

 

Part Three:

9)"Hired thieves and murderers don't usually work for love."

 

10)Wow, the Doctor really lays into the chauffeur!

 

11)"Amelia...Duckett." I wonder if whoever created Keeping Up Appearances had seen this episode.

 

12)"Have you met Miss Smith? She's my best friend."  The Tom Baker/Lis Sladen era is my favorite period of the show, old or new.

 

13)Cliffhanger #3: The Krynoid starts to open!

 

Part Four:

14)"What do you do for an encore, Doctor? "I win!"

 

15)Wow, this Doctor kicks the crap out of people - and carries a gun!

 

16)Cliffhanger #4: The Krynoid galumphs to the attack!  Really, the special effects in this aren't too bad all things considered, but the Krynoid does occassionally set the needle on the Goofy Meter stirring.

 

Part Five:

17)"I am aware that the Brigadier is in Geneva."  I'm guessing that Nick Courtney was unavailable.

 

18)"Yes, aggressive rhubarb."

 

19)Cliffhanger #5: The Krynoid looms over the house!  Now, I'm wondering if whoever wrote Godzilla vs. Biollante saw this.

 

Part Six:

20)"I tried to save him - he was trying to pull me in!"

 

21)The Doctor is the president of the Intergalactic Floral Society.

 

22)"You forgot to cancel the coordinate program." Umm, you were flown down to Antarctica - why would the TARDIS coordinates be set for there?

 

Another old favorite of mine, one I find quite enjoyable. It manages not to sag in the middle, the way many six-parters do.

Views: 76

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

The story is another indebted to The Quatermass Experiment. Wikipedia's page on the serial suggests further possible sources (including The Thing From Another World, which hadn't occurred to me).

 

One of the reasons it doesn't drag is, it's written as a two-parter followed by a four parter.

Yeah, I noticed that even when I was a kid. Almost as though they'd said "The next monster isn't here yet - could you fight the Krynoid some more for awhile."
An old favorite.  I'm glad to see it's out on DVD.  How're the extras?
Haven't looked at them yet.

Watched the extras for this.

 

The commentary track had various combinations of Tom Baker, actor Michael "Moberley" McStay, Joggs "son of director Doug" Camfield, writer Robert Banks Stewart, producer Philip Hinchcliffe, actor John "Scorby" Challis, deisgner Roger Murray-Leach and actor Kenneth "Dunbar" Gilbert.

 

"Podshock" was a "making-of" featurette.

 

"Now and Then" re-visited the filming locations.

 

"What Do You Do Exactly?" featured Graeme Harper discussing the various duties of a production assistant, director's assistant and production unit manager.

 

"Stripped for Action - The Fourth Doctor" discusses the Fourth Doctor's comic strip adventures.

 

"Playing in the Green Cathedral" discussed the show's music.

I’m half way in, with nothing really to add. I agree with Bob that “It manages not to sag in the middle, the way many six-parters do.” and also with Luke that, “One of the reasons it doesn't drag is, it's written as a two-parter followed by a four parter” (although I’m only one episode in to the “four-parter.”

The Tom Baker/Lis Sladen era is my favorite period of the show, old or new.

I don’t know if I’d go that far, but the Lis Sladen era is definitely my favorite period of Tom Baker’s tenure.

Finished watching this last night. Many of my favorite episodes are "the first this" or "the last that," but "Seeds of Doom" is a good, solid non-transitional, non-introductory story. I was thinking about the introduction Harlan Ellison wrote for the first of the Pinnacle Books adaptations. Given that Doctor Who was essentially a children's show (or at least started out that way), I wonder if he liked the show that much or just hated Star Trek...?

 

It's hard to tell what Ellison's thinking sometimes - he doesn't move on the same plane as us mortals.

Many of my favorite episodes are "the first this" or "the last that,"

 

Well, the two Mara stories appear to scheduled for April, but May should make you happy - the scheduled stories are "Planet of the Spiders", the last Pertwee story, and "Terror of the Autons", the introduction of the Master.

Oh, yes... been looking forward to both those for some time now, especially "Terror of the Autons" (which is also the first Jo Grant).

The Baron wrote:

Part One:

1) Wow, there's alot of good dialogue in this - it's really quite snappily written.

 

Agreed, it is a well written story but I never got the feel it was a well written Doctor Who story. I just didn't get the Who feel from it. I think because in this it was much more of an action/adventure story. It was almost like I was watching something like The Avengers. In part as you mention in your fifteenth point, The Doctor carries a gun and slugs people. This is the same guy that when he meets the Sevateem in Face of Evil threatens them with a jelly baby.

 

 

4)The Doctor claims to be 749 here.

 

I think he made the same claim in Brain of Morbius

 

Part Three:


10)Wow, the Doctor really lays into the chauffeur!

 

There are times watching this that I also think it could have been a leftover Pertwee story although I know that isn't the case.

 

12)"Have you met Miss Smith? She's my best friend."  The Tom Baker/Lis Sladen era is my favorite period of the show, old or new.

 

See Tom, if you had kept your yap shut, you wouldn't have put David Tennant in such a bind in School Reunion ;)


Part Four:

 

15)Wow, this Doctor kicks the crap out of people - and carries a gun!

 

Part Six:

21)The Doctor is the president of the Intergalactic Floral Society.

 

Probably came with the PBS pledge he made. LOL!

 

22)"You forgot to cancel the coordinate program." Umm, you were flown down to Antarctica - why would the TARDIS coordinates be set for there?

 

True, he went there by plane, BUT knowing The Doctor his intent was to go via The TARDIS which he would have programmed before Sarah Jane talked him out of it knowing they would either end up on Skaro or the year 5000 instead and he never canceled it. She just said he never canceled it but she never said he used it. Although that whole end scene has been discussed by fandom for years. Just an excuse to get Liz Sladen in swimwear, I imagine. NOT That I am complaining. Still, at the same time, it isn't Nicola Bryant in a bikini either.

 

Another old favorite of mine, one I find quite enjoyable. It manages not to sag in the middle, the way many six-parters do.

 

Agreed, despite my griping, I do enjoy the story overall and I just picked it up earlier in the week but it wasn't really on the "got to pick it up" list. ALSO, one of the things not mentioned in the special features is the fact that there is an Easter Egg on disc two of them trying to break in to a supposedly locked door that someone actually forgot to lock.

Would you believe, I JUST watched "MAN-EATER OF SURREY GREEN" 5 days ago? Perfect timing.

I've always liked this... to a degree. I think it's a great idea to have just ONE 6-parter a season, have it as the big season finale, AND, structure it so it's like a 4 tacked to a 2 or vice-versa (except "ARMAGEDDON FACTOR", which is like 3 2-parters strung together).

Baker's Doctor at this point is like Peter Falk's COLUMBO at this same point. The "act" has become so convincing, you're no longer sure it's an act. Indeed, the Doctor here seems genuinely MAD. (And angry, too.) He smiles too much, nobody can take him seriously, even when they really really should. And in the face of desperately callous brutally violent types, he's shockingly irresponsible. Time and again, he overcomes some armed thug... only to FAIL to take their gun away from them. And the one time he DOES, he sets it down a moment later, for the baddie to pick it up again. IDIOT!!! Everything else aside, THIS was the one thing that repeatedly infuriated me watching this story, from 1979-on (and I've ALWAYS watched it in the context of all the surrounding episodes-- every single time-- well, except when my PBS station spent the first 8 months running his first 4 seasons TOTALLY AT RANDOM). Anyway, things like this made me GLAD when Colin Baker arrived. HE took crap from nobody!

This was meant to be a NEW AVENGERS? Really? Would have been too much of a remake, perhaps why they turned it down. I'll tell you this, if it had been Mike Gambit and Purdey, MIKE would have not only taken Scorby's gun away, he would have SHOT the bastard!!!

Chase is one of the most memorable-- and perhaps scariest-- villains in the show's history. And clearly insane. A shame. His scene with Emilia Ducat-- what an ADORABLY dotty lady!-- show how Chase might have been, if he HADN'T been totally obsessed and insane. Ah well.

Scorby reminds me a bit of Lytton, the sort of thug Eric Saward would have loved... but Saward would have KILLED him anyway. Sarah has been remarkably sweet all this season... until the 2nd half of this story. That sharp tongue finally came out again, only this time, aimed at the right target. The scene where she stands up to Scorby was incredible, and I always get the feeling that just under the surface she's fighting down sheer terror. What a girl. (These days, though, I'd much rather have a Jo in my life than a Sarah-Jane. My, how I've changed!!) It's funny, but Sarah's outbursts wind up being one more thing that makes this story seems like it should have been done a year earlier.

It does seem odd that after 5 seasons straight of UNIT they spent 2 more just slowly drifting away from it. Wouldn't a clean break, followed by the occasional return adventure been a better balance? VARIETY! That's the ticket...

Reply to Discussion

RSS

Welcome!

No flame wars. No trolls. But a lot of really smart people.The Captain Comics Round Table tries to be the friendliest and most accurate comics website on the Internet.

SOME ESSENTIALS:

RULES OF THE ROUND TABLE

MODERATORS

SMILIES FOLDER

TIPS ON USING THE BOARD

FOLLOW US:

OUR COLUMNISTS:

Groups

© 2018   Captain Comics, board content ©2013 Andrew Smith   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service