Fantastic Four

[JD DeLuzio]

Unless I'm missing it (and, if I am, some moderator-type should feel free to move my comment there), the good folks at Captain Comic's have avoided the firestorm that has hit certain places because Michael B.Jordan has been cast as Johnny Storm in the forthcoming FF film. I'm fine with the choice-- the movies are their own entity-- but I'm annoyed that they've stated Sue and Johnny will not be siblings. I think that decision removes an essential part of the FF's squabbling family dynamic.

Anyone else?

 

[PowerBook Pete, the Mad Mod]

Just for the record, my skin once turned orange from excessive solar exposure.

[Mark S. Ogilvie]

  I remember there was a lot of disbelief when Micheal Keaton was cast as Batman.  But back then not everyone had a voice.

Randy Jackson said:

Was there this much outrage when Johnny Depp was cast as Tonto? If not, there should have been.

[Mark S. Ogilvie]

  Doesn't matter, there is no way to discuss it.

PowerBook Pete, the Mad Mod said:

Just for the record, my skin once turned orange from excessive solar exposure.

[John Dunbar]

That's what everyone who uses too much bronzer says.

PowerBook Pete, the Mad Mod said:

Just for the record, my skin once turned orange from excessive solar exposure.

[PowerBook Pete, the Mad Mod]

Ha! Actually, I had used nothing that day and stayed at the softball fields too long. I'm no John Boehner.

[Mr. Silver Age]

Your skin will turn orange if you eat too many carrots. The part about giving you better eyesight was a trick to fool the Nazis, but the part about becoming The Thing is true.

-- MSA

[John Dunbar]

Did you hear that Ma?  A trick to fool the Nazis.  I ate all them carrots for nothin'!

[Detective 445]

Mark S. Ogilvie said:

'Skipping it' when it comes to characters you've loved for years is not an immediate option. For some the process of separation takes years and the journey from really caring to really angry to really bitter to really indifferent is a long, slow painful one.

Sounds pretty unhealthy.
Personally, I think I would reserve that sort of process for real relationships with real people and even then I would probably seek professional help if I felt that way.

[Mark S. Ogilvie]

  That's you, but not me.  There is a certain power and comfort in anger that can help buttress a person against the day in/day out frustrations that so fill life.  There is so little to be happy about and so much to get angry/worry about in our society and so little that anyone can do about it either way, at least when I get angry about what's done to fictional characters in the name of edgy marketing or writer's ego I know that it's merely an indulgence and it helps drain off some of the anger.  It's like watching one of those ridiculous media shows like crossfire where you have democrats and republicans shouting talking points at each other.  It's all useless and phony, designed to get everyone angry and when the credits roll you can see them all laughing and joking, content that they've made their money and stirred the pot for their sides.  At least when I get mad over a bad comic book story I know I'm getting angry over something that isn't being represented as real or that important. 

But I'll get angry anyway if I wish and after that I'll simply avoid it as much as I can.  But it takes time to just leave and forget about something when you've done it for a lot of years.  You follow a character for over a decade and then have someone come along and trash the character it doesn't mean that the character is suddenly banished from mind and memory.  I give leeway to different medium interpretations as now if they do put a mixed race element into the FF movie it won't bother me at all, but I can see the reason it would bother others.  Perhaps not the race element itself as much as anger at the producer/writer who looks at the traditional and says 'The hell with this, the people who liked this are idiots, they don't know what they like until I tell them what they like" and that's been in my opinion the philosophy behind a lot of comic book to movie interpretations  that have featured massive shifts in character design and behavior.

Detective 445 said:

Mark S. Ogilvie said:

'Skipping it' when it comes to characters you've loved for years is not an immediate option. For some the process of separation takes years and the journey from really caring to really angry to really bitter to really indifferent is a long, slow painful one.

Sounds pretty unhealthy.
Personally, I think I would reserve that sort of process for real relationships with real people and even then I would probably seek professional help if I felt that way.

[Detective 445]

Mark S. Ogilvie said:

  That's you, but not me.  There is a certain power and comfort in anger that can help buttress a person against the day in/day out frustrations that so fill life.  There is so little to be happy about and so much to get angry/worry about in our society and so little that anyone can do about it either way, at least when I get angry about what's done to fictional characters in the name of edgy marketing or writer's ego I know that it's merely an indulgence and it helps drain off some of the anger.  It's like watching one of those ridiculous media shows like crossfire where you have democrats and republicans shouting talking points at each other.  It's all useless and phony, designed to get everyone angry and when the credits roll you can see them all laughing and joking, content that they've made their money and stirred the pot for their sides.  At least when I get mad over a bad comic book story I know I'm getting angry over something that isn't being represented as real or that important. 

But I'll get angry anyway if I wish and after that I'll simply avoid it as much as I can.  But it takes time to just leave and forget about something when you've done it for a lot of years.  You follow a character for over a decade and then have someone come along and trash the character it doesn't mean that the character is suddenly banished from mind and memory.  I give leeway to different medium interpretations as now if they do put a mixed race element into the FF movie it won't bother me at all, but I can see the reason it would bother others.  Perhaps not the race element itself as much as anger at the producer/writer who looks at the traditional and says 'The hell with this, the people who liked this are idiots, they don't know what they like until I tell them what they like" and that's been in my opinion the philosophy behind a lot of comic book to movie interpretations  that have featured massive shifts in character design and behavior.

Detective 445 said:

Mark S. Ogilvie said:

'Skipping it' when it comes to characters you've loved for years is not an immediate option. For some the process of separation takes years and the journey from really caring to really angry to really bitter to really indifferent is a long, slow painful one.

Sounds pretty unhealthy.
Personally, I think I would reserve that sort of process for real relationships with real people and even then I would probably seek professional help if I felt that way.

Sounds pretty unhealthy.

[ClarkKent_DC]

Randy Jackson said:

Hmm. I've never liked ripping on Cruise for his acting, as I think he does a good job. He does get roles that others would perhaps do better at because his name adds a lot of box office, but I don't see him mailing it in either.

Yeah ... whatever you might say about Tom Cruise, you can't say he phones it in. He always prepares thoroughly, works hard, and gives his all. 

[PowerBook Pete, the Mad Mod]

Detective 445 said:

Sounds pretty unhealthy.

 

When I've found that someone's poisoned my well, I don't keep drinking from the same one; I find another well. I read a lot more reprints and independent comics than new ones from the Big Two and have for the last few years.