Flash had its season premiere last night! Spoilers are to be expected in this thread, but I'll put in a picture of Flash traveling through time to give people a chance to turn back. 

OK, everyone up to speed? Good.

I have mixed feelings about this season premiere. The good: Flashpoint was over and done with quickly. We got a glimpse of the universe -- which was honestly a pretty good status quo for everyone but Joe, up until Wally died (even Caitlyn, who wasn't living up to her genius potential, seemed happy) -- but Barry feels so much guilt for the way things turned out that he asks Reverse Flash to go back in time to kill his mother again. On an emotional level, I just don't buy it. She's his mother, and the Flashpoint world was pretty good. I'm not sure the stakes were dire enough for him to allow her to be killed again. The world wasn't ending -- he was just going to lose his memories of the original reality. Going back on that seems to pile a selfish choice on top of his original selfish choice to save his mom. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if at some later point his mom steps out of time and becomes one of his greatest villains, just because she's tired of her moment of greatest pain being used as some cosmic pivot point for reality. 

But on the plus side, this happened in just one episode, and now the rest of the season (and whatever wrinkles to old relationships it brings) can begin. I can't wait to see what Welles is like *this* season! 

On the minus side, everything Barry said or did was creepy, from his pursuit of Iris to his weird goodbye to his parents. I wish the writers had found a way for him to say goodbye in a way that was meaningful for him, but didn't leave them thinking he was about to jump off a bridge. 

Another minus -- Henry's still dead when Flashpoint ends -- though that's mitigated by Shipp playing Jay Garrick from now on.

Third minus: Once again, we have a speed villain -- and one who's "terrorizing Central City to prove that he's the fastest." That's the flimsiest motivation I've ever heard. Hasn't the guy ever heard of the Boston Marathon?

Plus: Next week is Dr. Alchemy -- an old favorite from the comics, and someone who's NOT a speedster! I'm very happy about that. 

Line of the night? Hands down, it's gotta be: "Am I kidnapped?" "That's undecided."

What'd you guys think?

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After everyone was saying that Wells never puts down the drumsticks, I don't think he as much as touched them this week.

I'm enjoying everything they do.

Y'all are missing the big picture.  We're witnessing the origin of the Terrific Whatzit!

Well, we've already had The Turtle. Nothing would surprise me now!

I am glad we're past the "will they or won't they" with Iris. That was really uncomfortable, especially when the "sort-of foster siblings" angle was in evidence (which it was, way too much). And they're also moving past all the adults lecturing Wally when he seemed to be doing fine as a speedster. The show works much better without all the CW angst (and lying) -- and so does Team Flash, which you'd think the characters would notice.

BTW, Doctor Hmmm, look what plush toy DC Collectibles just announced:

Aw, yeah, McSnurtle!

Hmmm...

Evidently we're going to get a gorilla invasion, and who doesn't enjoy a good gorilla invasion?

Technically, a two-part gorilla invasion on an alternative Earth with Jesse Quick! Followed sometime later by a musical Supergirl crossover! Somewhere, the ghost of Julius Schwarz is smiling, just like me.

-- MSA 

Looking forward to the Grodd two-parter.

I enjoyed the fact that the new Black Canary's name is Dinah Drake.

In a perfect world, the gorilla two-parter would be a musical:

The CW Presents: Grodd-spell
 
Mr. Silver Age said:

Evidently we're going to get a gorilla invasion, and who doesn't enjoy a good gorilla invasion?

Technically, a two-part gorilla invasion on an alternative Earth with Jesse Quick! Followed sometime later by a musical Supergirl crossover! Somewhere, the ghost of Julius Schwarz is smiling, just like me.

-- MSA 

Ha! I'm a few eps behind on Flash, but I can't let Groddspell go unmentioned! Well done, Doc!

I tend to stay current on Supergirl and Flash, followed by Legends, so I guess I make up my list of favorites. Although I'm thinking I may catch up on SHIELD and others and keep Flash so I can watch both parts at once. Too many first-world problems!

-- Craig

Due to conflicting schedules, my wife and I can only watch shows together on Friday and Sunday nights. We watched Legion and Riverdale on Friday this week and S.H.I.E.L.D. and Walking Dead on Sunday, so you can see what her favorites are.

My favorites? Why would that matter? I'm married!  photo tongue.gif

My wife leave me alone to watch them all, so I have my pick. But there are getting to be too many for that to work well. I did hook her early onto Grimm and iZombie, but I doubt any of the others are gonna catch on. She's listened to Riverdale in the other room, and I think she is wondering why I'm still watching. But it's not as bad as I feared, and that's keeping me going.

I gave up on Walking Dead after this year's first episode, and nothing I've read since indicates I've missed much good. I considered starting back up this half-season, after what I assumed would be the Rick Finds His Spine half-season ender, but so far, the response seems underwhelming, so I think I'll stay gone until Negan is or at least until he's being shown the door. So that opens up 2 hours a week for the rest.

How is Legion? As a comic book connection, it means nothing to me, but I've heard people rave about it. But I'm not sure if these are Legion fans astonished to see their favorite come to life so magnificently or if it would work for someone who knows or cares not at all about any Legion comics. It would have to be really good to find a spot (Gotham is already on the bubble), but if it's that good, SHIELD can wait.

-- MSA

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