As I write this, Rob Liefeld is tweeting that he's quit DC's New 52 -- the 0 issues will be his last.

I don't read his comics, but I always like to hear what he has to say about the industry. His point of view is refreshing, in the sense that he sees a lot of the jobs he takes as just that: jobs. He approaches them like a craftsman, not an artist, and as such the complaints that he voices about the experience tend to be more down-to-earth than those of other creators. (That isn't to say he doesn't have ego -- he has it in spades -- but he also recognizes he's a hired gun in a way that other talent sometimes doesn't seem to.)

 

Some quotes:

 

Just finished sending my thank you's to DC personnel. Officially got off the DC52 treadmill this morning...

Scott Clark will be replacing me p. Deathstroke. Marat will continue the work on Grifter...I had a great time at DC.

 

I believe in what DC is doing, but had to preserve my sanity.

I walked off all 3 books. Can't wait to see any attempts to spin. I have every email.

 

The 0's are my last issues. Thanks for all the love.

This is the 4th time I quit in the last 4 months. This time it will stick.

I would put  on Deathstroke and Grifter. In a heartbeat.

Never thought the Image section of my book would be topped. This last year was a humdinger. The DC52 chapters will go top all of it.

Reasons are the same as everyone's that you hear. I lasted a few months longer than I thought possible.

Massive indecision, last minute and I mean LAST minute changes that alter everything. Editor pissing contests... No thxnjs

Last week my editor said " early on we had a lot of indie talent that weren't used to re-writes and changes..made it hard". Uh, no, it's you

No idea? Geoff Johns? Josh Fialkov? No idea.. RT  who's taking Hawkman?

I respect Dan Didio and Bob Harras and thank them for the opportunities. Again, I dig many DC 52 books.

 

 

Rich Johnston has also arrived on his feed. Rob was asked if his books would be canceled without him, and Rob said, "Why would they?" Rich said, "Because I was told by DC people that if you left, or your run didn't work out, the books would be dropped."

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Which is dumb, because it was their job to put the water into said pool.

Mark Stanislawski said:

That does seem to be the case. You would think when you do a line wide reboot you would have some type of road map or bible for Creators to follow (and Editors to have guidelines), but in this case they dove into the pool without bothering to check whether there was any water in it!

Correct!

Wandering Sensei said:

Which is dumb, because it was their job to put the water into said pool.

Mark Stanislawski said:

That does seem to be the case. You would think when you do a line wide reboot you would have some type of road map or bible for Creators to follow (and Editors to have guidelines), but in this case they dove into the pool without bothering to check whether there was any water in it!

Maybe if I'd been a teenager when Image Comics was created, circa 1992, I'd have a different opinion about Liefeld. Guess I'll never know.

I was a teenager when Image was created (18 to be precise) and yup, I have very positive feelings towards Liefeld from those days.  I enjoyed his work at the time.  I especially enjoyed the energy he brought to his work.  It was very vibrant and dynamic.  But I don't follow his work much anymore.  I gave up on Hawk & Dove pretty quickly and haven't been able to get into his new Youngblood. 

Apparently, Rob Liefeld has now turned to bashing Scott Snyder and Tom Brevoort.

Article here.

Wow. He is not well.

Mark Stanislawski said:

Apparently, Rob Liefeld has now turned to bashing Scott Snyder and Tom Brevoort.

Article here.

Here's the most valuable thing I got out of that article...in the comments below, no less:

I’m reminded of Neil Gaiman’s comments that there are three qualities that make a good freelancer, of which you only need two:

1) Your work must be good.
2) You must get your work done on time.
3) You must be a pleasure to work with.


HOW TRUE!


Mark Stanislawski said:

Apparently, Rob Liefeld has now turned to bashing Scott Snyder and Tom Brevoort.

Article here.

It never fails to amaze me that people will continue to give Liefeld money to draw, let alone write, anything at all. That a guy can act like a jerk like this and still gets work when guys like Bill Loebs basically starve just shows how screwed up this industry is.

The purpose of a freelancer is to solve the editor's problems. So any two of Gaiman's three points are enough to make that happen. But unfortunately "good" means having a name or style that sells to a lot of people. Liefeld somehow has that and Bill Loebs doesn't. Any definition of "good" beyond that is irrelevant.

I was surprised that DC made Liefeld such a pivotal part of the new DCU. But maybe the thinking was that those teenagers with all their Youngbloods in the closet are now the age of the current comics-buying public, and they'd have good feelings about his work, as Chris indicates.

Not being at that age, I scratched my head, shrugged my shoulders, and ignored it.

I found Liefeld's descriptions, minus all the personal attacks, about how he approached his assignments to be interesting. It reinforces the idea that this brand new universe was thrown together on the fly, which is astonishing for something so dramatic. Frankly, if stories are approved and then the editor wants it rewritten from scratch, that's a new story that should be paid for, too.

I agree that the DCU seems to be a marketing success but an editorial fizzle. That would happen because the idea of restarting Action and Detective at #1 is a no-brainer marketing idea, guaranteed to make big money from non-comics readers. But making that and 50-some-odd other comics justify new beginnings (sometimes only partly) is a huge editorial challenge. I wasn't overly impressed with how that happened.

BTW, Gaiman's list is a variation on the legendary freelancer's creed: There are three possible types of work: Good, Fast and Cheap. A client gets any two. The problem is when they want all three. Three don't work, but that's usually what they want.

-- MSA

It reinforces the idea that this brand new universe was thrown together on the fly, which is astonishing for something so dramatic.

 

I remember feeling that the post-Crisis on Infinite Earths had the similar flaws.

Bob Harris as one of the main editors makes me think that DC really is trying to recapture that 90s audience, MSA.

That was back in the Silver Age, I hate to admit.

The downside of age is offset by the upside of all the cool comics you got to buy off the spinner!

-- MSA

Remember, Jack had been drawing since the 1930s, and professionally for comics since the 1940s...that's more than 50 years guys!

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