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    As you may already know, the premise of this book is that the survivors of a number of Squadrons Supreme from extinct universes have come together in the Earth-616 universe in order to defend if it from threats by doing the kind of things that they perceive the Avengers and other such types as being too "weak" to do.  It's sort of The Authority, only more violent.

    The book itself is OK, but not not quite interesting enough to bring me back for issue #2.  However, what prompted me to post here today is the shenanigan that occurred in today's issue.  The Squadron went after Namor because he destroyed the home universe of the female Power Ring Doctor Spectrum who is a member of the team.  So, they attack Atlantis in order to draw out Namor, and then they literally take his head off. Seriously, Namor's head is now several feet away from his neck. Now, naturally, this can be undone - I thought of three ways to do it already, and I wasn't even trying  Also, I never really liked Namor much, so I wouldn't miss him if he was gone for good.  

    Anyway, the issue ends with Jim Hammond asking the Avengers team that Steve Rogers is on now what they're going to do about it.

    Between this and what they did with Galactus over in the Ultimates' book it certainly seems like they're trying to shake things up.

    So, what do you people think?

  • Wasn't Namor killed just prior to Secret Wars also? I haven't read that particular issue of whatever Avengers title it was, since I'm trade-waiting those. But I heard about it.



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    Wasn't Namor killed just prior to Secret Wars also? I haven't read that particular issue of whatever Avengers title it was, since I'm trade-waiting those. But I heard about it.


    Black Panther and Black Bolt tried to kill him just prior to the incursion event but he survived and ended up escaping the incursion along with the other members of the Cabal.

    I liked this first issue but it's hard to imagine that the rest of the Marvel heroes would just allow the Squadron to go on about their business of executing people. I'll be interested to see how Robinson solves that problem.
  • Yeah, Captain America especially would take a dim view of extra-judicial executions, especially of a fellow Invader.

  • As I mentioned in my reaction to James Robinson’s Scarlet Witch #1, I think his recent run on Invaders was not only the best Invaders series in a while, but also James Robinson’s personal best writing since Starman. My hope is that he can carry the group dynamic from one title to another. The problem is, this team comprises members I don’t give a $#!t about, and springs from a crossover series I don’t give a $#!t about. Can Robinson make me care about these characters? It’s a tall order.

    I did read the MAX imprint’s Supreme Powers so I am at least passingly familiar with this Nighthawk, and Power Princess seems to be Mark Gruenwald’s version, so I’m familiar with her, too. Frankly, though, for all intents and purposes, I’m thinking off all these characters as brand new.

    Which brings me up to the elephant in the room: the beheading of the Sub-Mariner. From what I’ve read on this board, Namor has committed some recent acts not in keeping with his heroic (or even anti-heroic) character. I didn’t read those stories, so they didn’t happen (at least not on Earth-J). As far as I am concerned, the Sub-Mariner in issue #1 is an version from an alternate Earth as well. So far, I don’t care about any of the characters, except Captain America (or whatever they’re calling Steve Rogers these days) and the Human Torch.

    At this point I’m more interested in Steve Rogers and Jim Hammond than I am the Squadron Supreme, but that’s enough to bring me back for issue #2.

  • I'm kind of on the fence about it.  I don't really feel a connection to these characters, either, but I am somewhat curious as to what direction he's going to take this book in.  Spectrum and the Blur seem like ciphers to me, perhaps he can flesh them out a bit.

    What I'm not sure of is how long a team like this can possibly co-exist for long in a world filled with "traditional" super-heroes. there are what, three teams of Avengers, now?  Four, if you count the Ultimates, five if you count the A-Force, even though they're not out yet.  What would possibly stop them  from taking the Squadron down hard?  This is the problem of the Punisher writ large, to my mind.

  • You probably know that Blur was a character in the New Universe title DP7. (Which, come to think of it, will probably return as a Deadpool title. "DP7! Seven times the Deadpool!") But as Jeff says, I don't expect any of the minor characters to be tied to strongly too any previous (low-selling) appearances and are, for all intents and purposes, new characters. 

  • Never read any of the New Universe stuff, that whole set of books flew completely under my radar.

  • I'm sure they're available in the quarter bins at your LCS, where they belong.

  • I bought and read the first issue of Star Brand when it came out, the single "New Universe" title I tried, until...

    I bought and read the first John Byrne issue of Star Brand when it came out, the last "New Universe" issue I bought, until...

    I bought the entire run of Star Brand out of the quarter bin in the '90s, and...

    I haven't read them yet.

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