Saw a Takashi Miike picture called The Great Yokai War. "Yokai" is a Japanese term for monsters from folklore, as opposed to the more familiar kaiju. It's a kids' picture, about a young boy from Tokyo sent out to live in the countryside with his older sister and his intermittently senile grandfather. When a vengeful spirit appears, the boy gets caught up in a war between warring groups of yokai and must find his courage to become the "Kirin Rider", the hero who will set everything to rights. It's not a bad picture - nothing deep, but an amusing story. Some of the yokai are really trippy, Japanese folklore can get pretty "out there", apparently.

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But it didn't sink.  Lee Daniels' The Butler was made with a $30 million budget and did $116 million at the North American box office.  It got a 73% score of positive ratings at Rotten Tomatoes.

Why no nominations for Oscars or Golden Globes?  Good question.  Looking at the wikipedia entry for the movie, it got several nominations and even a few wins for lesser known awards organizations like Screen Actors Guild, Critics' Choice, and People's Choice Awards.  I read somewhere that the nine films nominated for Best Picture all came out in October or later - fresh in people's minds, which would work against The Butler or 42 for that matter.

I know little about the Golden Globes, but I think the Academy has some funny habits - like not wanting to give nominations to two (or more) films that share similar ground.  12 Years A Slave gets 9 nominations; The Butler gets nothing.  Maybe the director and producer putting his name in the title ruffled feathers.  Maybe the marketing did hurt it, as it seemed to be "See Oprah in a movie!".  She's been in a few films in her life but I doubt the Academy reall considers her to be an actress.  These are just guesses on my part, no evidence, just a gut feeling.

John Dunbar (the mod of maple) said:

I know little about the Golden Globes, but I think the Academy has some funny habits - like not wanting to give nominations to two (or more) films that share similar ground. 12 Years A Slave gets 9 nominations; The Butler gets nothing. Maybe the director and producer putting his name in the title ruffled feathers. Maybe the marketing did hurt it, as it seemed to be "See Oprah in a movie!". She's been in a few films in her life but I doubt the Academy reall considers her to be an actress. These are just guesses on my part, no evidence, just a gut feeling.

The Golden Globes are awarded by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, which is an organization of critics from outside the USA. The huge membership of less than 100 does the voting for the awards. In contrast, the Oscars are voted by a large membership. Actors vote for the acting awards, directors for the directing awards, etc.

The problem with bad marketing is that it attracts audiences who expect a different type of movie, which in turn causes the real intended audience to stay away. Then there is no good word of mouth from the people who've seen the movie because they were disappointed. This may explain why some things that bomb in theaters later do much better in DVD sales.

The last couple of nights, I have watched Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3. I enjoyed them both.

On "Svenghoolie", I saw The Murders of the Rue Morgue (1932) starring Bela Lugosi. This was his follow up to Dracula since he refused to do Frankenstein. He plays the creepy stalker well with little touches of humanity (and heaping slabs of inhumanity!).

The movie has little to do with Poe and does a great disservice to its hero, the first detective C. Auguste Dupin, transformed into Pierre Dupin, a medical student.

In fact it seemed like more of a prototype for King Kong!

I saw The Grand Budapest Hotel today and loved it. This is definitely one of Wes Anderson's better films of the last few years.

I went with a few other guys today to see it, and we had fun pointing out the tropes of WA's works, and the way they were used here. Every single scene and shot was beautiful in this film.

The commercials make it look, for lack of a better word, charming.

...I saw , tho' " TV docs " are , perhaps , not the intended subject matter of this thread?? , the PBS GREAT PERFORMANCES documentary on the Dave Clark 5 , directed and produced by Dave himself !

  Captain , I believe both the COMMERCIAL APPEAL and the Memphis PRESS SCIMITAR were among the newspapers whose clippings were shown in " clipping montages " . I obviously assume the PS is long out of business , yes ????????? Was it literal competition to the CA or were they morning/afternoon split ?

Memphis Press-Scimitar ceased publication in 1983.

...Thank you . I did recall the name , I do believe .

.I listened to the Move's selfsame first album whilst typing yesterday , so having re-found this , I'm reposting this now .

Henry R. Kujawa said:

The Move went thru several line-ups and style changes.  The EP SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE MOVE has them doing a live set at The Marquee, and they';re do some fantastic rock & roll.  The album MOVE (1968), despite some aggressive disinsterest on the part of some friends of mine who've heard it, really does remind me a lot of OUT OF THE BLUE, except with "studio strings" instead of an actual band string section.  The evolution, as with most bands of the 60's, is fast & meteoric, and continues thru their non-album singles. By the time of their 2nd album, SHAZAM, 2 of their 5 original members have left, replaced by Rick Price.  SHAZAM is like a more "progressive" version of REVOLVER-- every song sounds like it could be a different band.  I consider it a MASTERPIECE.  After this, Roy did his first solo album, but somhow, BOULDERS (on which he played every single instrument) was not released until 3 years later, which can cause some confusion in understanding the "evolution".

Allow me to back track a bit here... The earliest stuff I have by these guys is BIRMINGHAM BEAT, a collection of 14 songs by Mike Sheridan & The Nightriders.  Thing Birmingham's answer to The Beatles, except they never made it big.  halfway thru, Roy Wood joins, and quickly begins writing & singing. Mike decided to quit, and 5 guys from 4 bands (if I get this right) decided they needed to do something drastic, if they were ever going to make it big.  and so, The Move was formed.  Funny thing... the 3 remaining members of The Nightriders hired a new front man... Jeff Lynne.  Then they changed their name to The Idle Race.  The Move became HUGE in England, but never made it in America.  The Idle Race never made it in England!  Despite 2 albums and sevewral singles, tons of great press, nothing really sold.  Damn shame.  The music Jeff Lynne did with these guys (he was main writer, singer AND producer!) is comparable to The Move material from the same time, although with more of a combination "fairy tale" and "Victorian music hall" sound.

So for the 2nd time, Roy Wood invited Jeff Lynne to join him, and he agreed, provided they start a new band-- Electric Light Orchestra.  He went for it, but the record label BEGGED them not to change the name "for commercial reasons".  therefore, one COULD say (in theory) that LOOKING ON was actually the 1st "ELO" album... except it was listed as The Move.  I think (apart from the single "Brontosaurus") it was some of the CRAZIEST, weirdest stuff either of those 2 guys ever did.  Really demented, out there. The follow-up was much better-- MESSAGE FROM THE COUNTRY.  For God's sake, get the UK version.  On the US version they took the same 10 songs and shuffled them like a deck of cards, totally ruining it.  Their 3rd album was finally titled ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA (or, "NO ANSWER" in America-- go figure).  So you see, it wasn't REALLY the "1st" ELO album, in a way, it was the 3rd.  Everybody confused?  Good.

The last Move single was "California Man" / "Do Ya".  Wow.

And then Roy QUIT, leaving it in Jeff's hands, and formed Wizzard.  Wizzard got HUGE in England!!! -- but was unheard of in America.  Jeff's version of ELO took quite a while to have real success... but over a succession of albums, their following on both sides of the Atlantic built and built. Looking back, I find it funny that probably their biggest success(the point I started buying) was when their sound had finally come full circle so they were doing "pop" songs just as they had been in '67-'68 again.  Isn't that nuts?

Oh yes, there's also the BBC Radio album of Move songs, many of which were from the MOVE album, except, without the studio strings, and it's a toss-up which I like better.  Definitely harder-hitting as "simple" rock & roll, without the "classical" flourishes added in.

My top 3 60's bands for some time have been -- in order-- The Monkees, The Move, The Beatles.  Yeah!

Now how did a music discussion get into the "Movies" thread?  (heeheehee)

...I saw THE LEGO MOVIE :-) .

  Fun . Nifty visuals !

 The " Everything Is Awesome " song has gotten much publicity , but have you guys heard the song Batman does ? The " adult " one . :-)

I watched Son of the Pink Panther yesterday. It had been on the DVR for months, so I finally watched it to clear some space. It's the last of the Blake Edwards Panther series and probably the least. I would recommend it only if it's the only Panther film you haven't seen. I've never been a fan of Roberto Benigni, and his role as the son of Clouseau does nothing to change my feelings. Herbert Lom was still good as Dreyfus, but his stunt double is very obvious in some scenes. The funniest part of the movie, to me, is when the disguise specialist gives Cato the costume of a Hasidic Jew with a Hitler mustache. Also, Claudia Cardinale still looked lovely 30 years after the first movie, but here she's playing the character Elke Sommer played in A Shot in the Dark.

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