...Yeah , throughout the Golden/Atomic Age Cap and Billy were , generally , showed as more seperate , it's more recent that Billy and the Captain's mentality has been made more similar .
Likewise , modern DC brought back the " Austro-Hungarian Empire military dress uniform " upper right breast button on CM's uniform that was only on the GA version's uniform for the first year or so .
Modern DC has also made it so that the lightning bolt that comes down after Shazam's ( Or Cap himself's !!!!!!!!!!! ) name is spoken by someone " in the club " has actual physical results on the places and people around him , for years it was not like that...
Except for Morgan Edge, I don't think the Superman/Action/World's Finest creative teams used any of Jack's characters. OTOH, Lois Lane did but Jack never acknowledged that, either!
The Forever People were my least favorite DC Kirby book! I thought their names were childish and really, the black guy was called Vykin the Black! Then there was Sonny Sumo, Robot Deadman and little connection to The New Gods. No wonder most Kirby-ophiles choose to ignore them!
Oh, and welcome Henry! It's always good to have a new opinion and new voice here!
The Edge clone storyline from Lois Lane was wrapped up in Jimmy Olsen #152, a short "Newsboy Legion" story with Angry Charlie appeared in Jimmy Olsen #150, and Superman Family #192-194 ran a storyline involving the Project.
Less notably, Terry Dean, the casino owner from Jimmy Olsen, returned in Jimmy Olsen #155 as the backer of a college for young people with criminal records (in the first Mr. Action story). I think there was a bit of use of Edge's secretary Laura Conway in the Superman titles, but I don't recall any instances where she played a significant role in the stories. Inter-Gang played a role in the storyline in Superman #296-299, but I don't think its Apokolips connection was mentioned.
One really fun thing about doing this project has been how much I've been learning since I started it back on June 11. I've re-read and written reviews for over 2 dozen comics so far, but plan to only post ONE review here per day, so as not to overwhelm anyone. I've also been doing "restorations" of the covers, and have started my 1st blog, so far, just to post them online. I'll be including links to them in the titles for each review.
Meanwhile, here's the first of the "Fantasy" versions...
Regarding your question about whether Superman's feature was being revamped -
Mort Weisinger was in the process of leaving. Julie Schwartz, who took over Superman, certainly sought to revamp the feature. Action was initially edited post-Weisinger by Murray Boltinoff, but I think his issues were coordinated with Schwartz's. So for example Edge made Clark a TV reporter in Superman, and gave him a special van to work from in Action. Murphy Anderson had inked Curt Swan Superman covers previously, but it was only at this point that the two started doing stories together. The team drew for both titles.
Hi Henry. I see you were a poster on the old board. I think I followed a few of your long reading threads there, so its good to have you back.
I bought into the Fourth World collections back in the 90's when those grayscale collections came out. Kirby blew me away then, but I haven't read them since, although I've been close to it. Looks like you are providing the perfect oportunity here to brush up on my Fourth World. I didn't buy the 2 Jimmy Olsen collections back then, although I've always been meaning to. I picked up the second collection of Kirby's JO books recently, and looked everywhere for the first one to complete my collection and get stuck in, but it has now vanished from the bookshelves. :-(
So I'll be reading along, and maybe commenting here and there. Like you, I've put in a lot of comics reading and musing since I read these last, so I'm interested to see how they read now. (Not thirty years though!) As I read each series seperately last time, I'm interested in seeing how they read in publishing (chronological) order.
I've already read the first few pages of Forever People #1, but I'll be depending on your summaries of JO until you reach issue JO #142. Reading what you say about the first JO story starting without preamble, it does seem that Forever People #1 starts with the kind of slow drawing into a huge story that great epics get. The sound of the boom tube building in intensity is something like the way Terry Pratchett opens his Discworld novels with the great spacefaring turtle seen from a distance and then he closes in on it to focus on the events on the Discworld itself. The opening of Forever People seems similarly like a writer's (almost mystical) invocation of another reality.
(I like the scans of the covers you link to, but if you wanted to, it's easy to post the whole cover. Just click on the picture icon next to the link icon and click 'from a URL' and post your page address same as the link.)
I started my reading with the first 6 JOs back-to-back, but when i got to FP #1, which came out about in the middle of that (even though created FIRST), it hit me FP #1 really should be read first... despite JO's slow introduction of Darkseid being designed to be read first. So when I decided to post the reviews here, I figured, might as well put them in the "right" order. The first 6 JOs will still be done as a set, but that's only because of the "movie" feel of it.
Since rejoining the board here, I've kinda like the way there's no pics (that I've seen yet anyway). At MASTERWORKS, people tend to post so many pics, they tend to get in the way of the text, especially when the pics are BIGGER than 700 pixels wide, which forces me to incessantly scroll right-and-left-and-right-and-left to read every single line of text. (Yes, the resolution on my computer is set low; I LIKE it that way, and am not gonna change it for anybody.) Similarly, when I designed the new blog, I made sure it would "fit" on MY screen. Ditto for all the work I put into Nick Simon's Silver Age Marvel site, it's designed for a "regular" monitor screen, NOT "widescreen". (That site is unfortunately down right now, and neither Nick or I have heard back from the guy hosting it.) Anyway, I'm currently posting pics at 3 different sites, and as long as I can post inobtrusive links, there's no need to post them at 4. (At the Kirby_Land yahoo group, I'm also posting interior pages... sometimes, TONS of them!!) Ideally, each review would be posted together WITH the covers AND interiors, but until the SA Marvel site is back up-and-running (never mind that the 4W is DC), this will have to do.
In general, I think links are "cleaner", and they allow pages to come up faster, especially IF there's anyone out there who still has dial-up. (Yes, there are...)
Until this board got redone, I always preferred it over Masterworks. I'm still not crazy about the design, but at least there's a lot more content here now, and I'm slowly getting used to the format. Also, it seems to "work" much FASTER than other boards. I wonder why that is? (You click "Add Reply" or something, and BAM-- it's there! Some boards, I wind up sitting there for half a minute waiting... EVEN WITH hi-speed!)
"George Perez gave Darkseid a cape in JLA *185"
Ah! I forgot about that one. What a place to make his DC debut-- in the middle of a JLA-JSA-New Gods crossover. Crazy! And I wonder, does Dick Dillin hold the record for most issues of JLA by a penciller? Talk about holding onto a steady job-- he had to DIE before they replaced him.
Interesting observations about the story order. I may have made more observations in my later reviews, but it'll be a few days before I post them here. I know there was something about FP #1 that felt like it led directly into NG #1...
"I like to believe (on Earth-J) that “Him” emerged from his cocoon as the Infinity Man after the “Old God” Thor kicked his butt in issue #166 of his own “Third World” title."
I've been doing a lot of speculating over the last few years about how some of these stories might have played out if Kirby had stayed at Marvel. For one thing, I believe if Kirby had gone thru with Ragnarok, that Thor would not have died... but instead, become the "sole survivor of a doomed world" (note the blue costume & red cape... heh heh heh). While Superman's suddenly feeling "alone" in FP #1 seems a bit odd (how does that reflect on the entire membership of the JLA?), picture if it had been Thor suddenly finding out a whole new world has replaced the destroyed Asgard.
By the way, my own theory is, if the "Him" 2-parter in F.F. hadn't been derailed and then ended so soon, I think the 2nd half would have been Ben Grimm GOING BERZERK and fighting Him for trying to steal his girl, Alicia. Now really... doesn't this make so much more sense than the way it played out in THOR?
And by the way... check out the 2-parter in THOR with Pluto-- the "time tunnel"-- and Pluto's "demons". See if that doesn't feel like a dry run for Superman, Darkseid, the Boom Tube, and the Darkseid's para-demons.