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  • I read the first 2 issues, why what happened?
  • I dunno. I didn't buy; I just read a friend's copy and I still feel ripped off.
  • Travis Herrick said:
    I read the first 2 issues, why what happened?

    SPOILER

    Hawkeye dies...the Red Skull took over the world by organizing the villains...including Magneto (uh, no)...killed Captain America...Peter Parker...Tony Stark...the FF...(uh, no)...convinced Logan he was fighting other villains so he would kill the X-Men..."dead" Logan is brought to the White House...Logan wakes up...grabs Cap's shield and cuts off the Skull's head...takes the blood money the killers received from the Skull for offing Hawkeye...but when he gets back to California, the Banners have killed his family...so he ain't Logan no more...he's (two page spread of just the word "Snikt!")...Wolverine...continued in Giant Size Old Man Logan...

    ...no thanks...
  • Ugh. I haven't picked this issue up yet but this story has been lame. It stated out rather well. I generally like Millar's stuff. After I read the issue I'll post my two cents.
  • Huh, well can't say I am sad to have missed that. Thanks for the breakdown, though.
  • Doc Beechler said:
    Travis Herrick said:
    I read the first 2 issues, why what happened?

    SPOILER

    Hawkeye dies...the Red Skull took over the world by organizing the villains...including Magneto (uh, no)...killed Captain America...Peter Parker...Tony Stark...the FF...(uh, no)...convinced Logan he was fighting other villains so he would kill the X-Men..."dead" Logan is brought to the White House...Logan wakes up...grabs Cap's shield and cuts off the Skull's head...takes the blood money the killers received from the Skull for offing Hawkeye...but when he gets back to California, the Banners have killed his family...so he ain't Logan no more...he's (two page spread of just the word "Snikt!")...Wolverine...continued in Giant Size Old Man Logan...

    ...no thanks...

    To me, it seems that Mark Millar just finally got around to watching Unforgiven and decided it was time to make it into a comic book.
  • Rich Lane said:
    Doc Beechler said:
    Travis Herrick said:
    I read the first 2 issues, why what happened?

    SPOILER

    Hawkeye dies...the Red Skull took over the world by organizing the villains...including Magneto (uh, no)...killed Captain America...Peter Parker...Tony Stark...the FF...(uh, no)...convinced Logan he was fighting other villains so he would kill the X-Men..."dead" Logan is brought to the White House...Logan wakes up...grabs Cap's shield and cuts off the Skull's head...takes the blood money the killers received from the Skull for offing Hawkeye...but when he gets back to California, the Banners have killed his family...so he ain't Logan no more...he's (two page spread of just the word "Snikt!")...Wolverine...continued in Giant Size Old Man Logan...

    ...no thanks...

    To me, it seems that Mark Millar just finally got around to watching Unforgiven and decided it was time to make it into a comic book.

    He's pretty much said that in interviews...
  • So now Millar's down with the decapitation, too? What happened to the wholesome vivisection we used to get in our good ole comics? :)
  • Doc Beechler said:
    He's pretty much said that in interviews...

    Really? Well in that regard he did a pretty damn good job. Too good, actually.
  • Mark Millar:

    "But I also liked the fact that some of the stories have been set in the past – Wolverine is over 100 years old. So you can do a World War II story, a Vietnam story, anything you want. You can even have a story set in Japan or whatever, you know? So then I thought, well it would be cool to do a story in the future, a story that hasn't happened to Wolverine yet. That's what got me thinking. I was just sitting there sketching a picture, and I gave Wolverine this really short, grey haircut. He kind of looked like Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven with this gnarled, wrinkled face. And then I was thinking, Clint was sort of the archetype that Wolverine was based on when he first appeared. He was Marvel's Man With No Name. No one knew where he came from or anything. He was cigar-chomping and he had that bad ass cowboy thing going, you know? Clint was very much a model sheet for him.

    So I thought, what about taking that to its logical conclusion then, and you have an elderly Wolverine like Clint in Unforgiven. And the story started writing itself from that point, once I started making up some sketches. I thought about Wolverine, who's probably the most violent superhero in the Marvel Universe, the idea of him being like Clint, the guy who's hung up his guns so to speak, the guy who hasn't popped his claws in 50 years. That suddenly felt interesting to me, the idea of an elderly Wolverine who turned his back 50 years previous living with his wife and his two young children out on a farm in the middle of nowhere off on the American West Coast.

    And I thought it wasn't enough to make it a western, so I started thinking about a post-catastrophe Marvel Universe where there's an environmental whatever, you know? We realize something extremely bad happened in the Marvel Universe just a couple years into our future. And there's no superheroes left. What you've got are second and third generation super-villains running the place. You've got the grandchildren of Electro or Sandman or any of those guys, amalgamations of those characters as they all start interbreeding and so on. These guys are in seven big gangs that control the seven big regions of what used to be America. And Wolverine's over on the West Coast, living his quiet life, you know? There's no other superheroes around really. The story runs from the West Coast to the East Coast where he has to travel to the city that used to be called New York. It's now called New Babylon, where most of the villains live. So it's a big road movie really. It starts on one side of America and works its way over to the other as we see what happened to the Marvel Universe."

    Full interview here -

    http://comics.ign.com/articles/847/847742p1.html
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