Marvel's "Dark Reign" is apparently coming to a head in the coming months, with a storyline called "The Siege." The PR has been coming fast and furious, including art, text and video. Here's what I've got so far.

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SIEGE is coming!

It’s all been leading up to this universe shattering four issue limited series from the superstar team of Brian Michael Bendis and Olivier Coipel! Following the events of Dark Reign: The List, Norman Osborn sets his sights set on Asgard and nothing will stop him from completing his mission. But what does he want? How do Loki and Thor figure in? And just how does this relate to the inner strife between the Cabal? Marvel’s greatest heroes unite against the deadliest threat they’ve ever faced, but even they have no idea what’s coming next. It’s time for the most jaw dropping comic book event of the decade begins in December with Siege: The Cabal and continues in January’s SIEGE #1!

The New Avengers Must Rescue Hawkeye From The Dark Avengers!

Spinning out of Dark Avengers and New Avengers, Clint Barton (AKA Ronin) is Norman Osborn’s prisoner…but the mightiest women of the Avengers intend to change things! New Avengers Annual #3, from award winning writer Brian Michael Bendis and red hot artist Mike Mayhew present the team of Jessica Jones, Spider-Woman, Mockingbird and Ms Marvel on a quest to save their captured comrade—no matter the cost! But are the Avenger’s playing right into Norman Osborn’s hands.

Critics continue to praise New Avengers, with IGN.Com raving, “Bendis has proved to be one of the most consistent comic book writers; not only of his generation, but in the history of the form. Across myriad titles and years worth of work, the man has produced dependably good, and oftentimes great, comic books.”

Will Jessica Jones and her teammates be able to save one of their own or will their daring attempt be met with disaster? The fate of Clint Barton will forever change the Avengers and New Avengers Annual #3 has the answers!

Pencils and Cover by MIKE MAYHEW
Rated T+ …$4.99
FOC – 11/12/09, On Sale – 12/02/09

What Price Victory?

SIEGE: THE CABAL [Prologue to Siege] (OCT090467)
Penciled by MICHAEL LARK
Rated T+ …$3.99
FOC—11/12/09, On-Sale—12/2/09

SIEGE #1 (of 4)
Pencils & Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL
Variant Cover by JOE QUESADA
Sketch Variant by OLIVIER COIPEL
Rated T+ …$3.99
FOC—12/10/09, On-Sale—1/6/10

Who Is Norman Osborn’s Secret Weapon In SIEGE?

SIEGE: THE CABAL [Prologue to Siege] (OCT090467)
Penciled by MICHAEL LARK
Rated T+ …$3.99
FOC—11/12/09, On-Sale—12/2/09

SIEGE #1 (of 4) (NOV090419)
Pencils & Cover by OLIVIER COIPEL
Variant Cover by JOE QUESADA
Sketch Variant by OLIVIER COIPEL
Rated T+ …$3.99
FOC—12/10/09, On-Sale—1/6/10

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Comment by Cavaliere (moderator emeritus) on November 8, 2009 at 6:47pm
That's pretty low, Mark. You'd rather root for the guy who has been just plain evil for most of his adult life than for the heroes who are generally good but have made some bad (even evil? Could be) decisions?

I won't be reading Siege, well, because of who is writing it. I am looking forward to the fallout from the event, though. What happens after Siege is what excites me.
Comment by Dagwan on November 9, 2009 at 10:56am
I just realized that the promo ads for Siege blow some of the ending of Captain America: Reborn.

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Comment by John Dunbar on November 9, 2009 at 8:44pm
I'm torn. Not a fan of the Bendis written New Avengers or his "big events" (House of M, Secret Invasion), but this real feels like a big change in the status quo is coming. We'll see.
Comment by John Dunbar on November 9, 2009 at 8:45pm
"I have yet to see much of a spark of heroism in the (admittedly few) stories I've read."

That speaks for itself right there.
Comment by Captain Comics on November 10, 2009 at 10:47pm
Note that two more pieces of art have been added. In one, things aren't going very well for Thor, and in the other, things aren't going very well for Osborn.
Comment by Captain Comics on November 11, 2009 at 1:46pm
I assume you mean Bucky-Cap is getting some help, and I imagine so. "Siege" seems to be all the good guys against all the bad guys. And Osborn will be target #1 for all the good guys. ("Cut off the head ... ") Besides, it's NOT Osborn's armor -- he stole it. He may be smart enough to operate it, but he'll never know it as well as the guy who designed and built it. Iron Patriot will always be a second-class Iron Man.
Comment by Figserello on November 12, 2009 at 3:02am
But Bendis' Marvel characters aren't the same as the ones that appeared in those comics in the 70s. For one thing Reed, Xavier, Stark and Namor weren't regularly meeting up to discuss the problems of the world in those stories...
Comment by Captain Comics on November 12, 2009 at 10:15am
I've added yet another piece of art to the package above; it appears to be Asgard crashing to Earth (in Latveria?).

And as long as I'm here, I'd like to disagree with some of the points here. Mainly that somehow Tony Stark is different than he used to be.

Nonsense. The panels posted here (of him choosing not to pursue The Beast and giving a speech about non-interference in people's lives) are the exception, not the rule. And, frankly, that sequence struck me as BS when it was published, and time hasn't changed my mind. I think the writer made a point of NOT having the Avengers chase The Beast around, because we'd been there, done that with The Hulk. He wanted a big name guest star (Iron Man), but wrote himself out of the consequences (once alerted to a super-powered felon, the Avengers would pursue). So he cobbled together some BS about Iron Man having some sort of Prime Directive.

Again, I call BS. Because Tony's history is rife with him interfering in other people's lives, frequently and often recklessly.

Let me be clear here: I don't think the writers ever meant to do that. They were just writing individual stories, and when they needed a deus ex machina, they'd use Tony's genius with machines to achieve it -- without thinking through the moral implications, nor realizing that other writers had done the same thing, giving the appearance of consistent amoral behavior by our hero.

This happened to Professor Xavier, too; Stan and Roy and Claremont would use Professor X's private experiments or hidden secrets as launch points for stories, not realizing that over time it painted Charlie as Machiavellian jerk.

But back to Tony. In Comics Buyer's Guide, when The Illuminati first came out, I did a brief hero history of each character to see if they were acting out of character to join such a group. With Reed Richards, I found incident after incident where he'd gone on record as being AGAINST such things as the registration act, and secret groups, and so forth. He was wildly out of character in The Illuminati.

But not Iron Man. After reviewing his hero history, my only question was why he hadn't done this before.

I'm not going to pull that article out and go line by line, because we don't have the room, nor do I have the time. But I will mention Stark 1) using earth's satellites to erase knowledge of his secret ID from every mind on earth (Cap punched him out for that one), 2) on at least two occasions, convincing everyone he was dead (including Pepper, Happy and Rhodey) for the better part of a year, partly (at least on one occasion) to convince a reluctant Rhodey to put on the armor that was having detrimental side effects to his mental health, and 3) Armor Wars I & II, in which Tony decided laws didn't apply to him, and he broke myriads of local, state, federal and international laws to retrieve his amor, resulting in at least one death. There are more in the article, but those are the ones that pop into my head this morning.

Now, being a good little fanboy, when each of these comics came out with Tony acting like a tool, I shrugged and said "Eh, it's meant to be a single story, not a pattern of behavior. That's how I'll take it."

But if sweeping statements are going to be made here about quiet 21st century revolutions or Tony going from good guy to bad guy, I must differ. Taking Iron Man's history as a whole, there is plenty in there to suggest that he is acting entirely in character. Heck, I found five or six episodes where Cap and Tony had come to blows over some action of Stark's (mind-wiping the world, getting drunk, lying to someone) -- so often that I had to wonder if these guys had ever been friends.

I would say that today's dystopic Marvel U is just an extension of what has come before -- an evolution, not a revolution. It's never exactly been Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I'm just having my say, and then I'll butt out.

Also, Mark, since I read Marvel's entire output every month (and DC's) I have read stories, scattered through many Marvel titles, of the effects of the SRA on minor heroes. Jack Flag leaps to mind, who was chased down in Thunderbolts, and ended up in 42, and then wound up a supporting character in Guardians of the Galaxy, where he does not have happy memories of Iron Man. There's a Native American hero who gave up the costume and is a sheriff on a reservation (I don't remember what title that was in, but I believe he appeared recently in War Machine). Other minor characters have had their stories told in second-tier titles like She-Hulk and Avengers: The Initiative or mini-series. The reactions of some members of the press have been referenced in the various Frontline minis, even though they were primarily concerned about World War Hulk or Secret Invasion or Marvel Apes.

I'm sorry that I can't give chapter and verse, but looking at the line as a whole, I think Marvel's done a good job of showing the effects of SRA on minor characters -- it's just never been a cover story, and is more of a background thing. Which I think is where it should be. I don't like some aspects of the Patriot Act, but I don't put on a costume and go fight the government. I talk about it with friends, and then we vote. If we were famous, we'd go on talk shows and try to convince large numbers of Americans to vote with us. (Which is what I think Captain America should have done all along, instead of the out-of-character and ultimately pointless Civil War. And what Prof. Xavier should have been doing for mutants instead of putting teenagers in masks and sending them into combat. But I digress.)

Again, your mileage might vary. But for my part, so far I'm satisfied that -- as Morpheus said in Dream Hunters -- “Events occurred as it was proper for them to do. I do not perceive that my attention was wasted.”
Comment by Captain Comics on November 16, 2009 at 5:29am

I hear you.

You're very unhappy about the events in the MU in the last few years. It doesn't match up with your comfort level with the comics, characters and events that you've enjoyed. Now it all seems ... WRONG ... to you. Not like it used to be. And nobody seems to understand that!

I get that.

I really do. I've been through that myself. Back in the late '70s I thought Marvel was changing everything, screwing everything up, turning every character I knew into some other character. It SUCKED, and I was angry, and nobody understood my anger, and when I complained, everyone made fun of me.

And I also know that MY experience is not YOUR experience. You are angry, for specific reasons because of books you have read and time you have spent in YOUR efforts at enjoying the Marvel Universe. Not MY experience. Not Chris Fluit's. Not Commander Benson's. Not Cavalier's.

YOUR experience. It is unique to you, and it is your specific pain when Jemas/Quesada/whoever screws up YOUR Marvel Universe.

And I get it. I understand that problem. I've had my own version of it long enough, and often enough, that I really, really get it.

But at some point, when I've got that problem, I man up and shut up. I don't like what they've done with Bobby Drake and Warren Worthington. But I've never breathed a word of it here. Because OTHER people ENJOY that. And that is their experience -- they are younger than you and this is THEIR time -- and they are enjoying it. And I haven't the right to screw with their fun.

And neither do you. YOUR experience is not THEIR experience. You can't tell other people to live the Marvel Universe any more than I can.

So now we're back to you, Mark. Yes, I understand that you're unhappy. I share that sometimes. I understand that you now believe that Tony Stark is so awful and so different than before that you MUST speak up every time that a conversation involves Tony Stark you must set the record straight.

I get it. I really do. Sometimes I feel the same way. In fact, I OFTEN do.

But I shut up. I sit down. It's not my job to pour cold water on other people when they are having fun. That's really crappy, you know?

And that is what you are doing, Mark. Over and over. You acknowledge that nobody agrees with you. You acknowledge that you are a party-poop. And yet, in saying that, you just posted a two screen-length screed pouring water on everyone else's parade.

That's wrong, Mark. And as the guy with the big head at the top of the board, I have to stop it. It's gone on long enough. YOU have gone on long enough.

When you talk about Tony Stark, you are shrieking harpy. But when you don't, you are a cool dude. You post great stuff, and are a valued member of the LoSFH. And I want you here, saying those things.

But when you talk about Iron Man -- whuff. You make everyone angry.

So here's the deal: If you have a problem with Tony Stark, send me an e-mail. We'll talk about it. I can share a lot of cool information, and we can have a great conversation. I Gay-arn-tee that we will have a long and fruitful conversation.

But do not -- DO NOT -- post on my board again with the stuff you just posted. You've done it again and again, and you say yourself that you've never convinced anyone or gotten any converts. All you're doing is raining on everyone else's parade. You're just a Debbie Downer, dude, and enough's enough.

So stop it, Mark. Stop it, or you're banned. That's the bottom line. And I am serious.


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