Saw this today and I loved it.
Anyone else?
Please know that you should expect MAJOR SPOILERS in this thread...
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Here were my favorite elements:
Yeah, I forgot to add that I loved the way Arnim Zola (it was so creepy/realistic) and the way Maria Hill became a much bigger player in this movie. Looking forward to Maria in the next movie. I wish Zola had been more of a Werner von Braun than a Hubertus Strughold, but at least he was included and provided another tie to the original Captain America movie.
I don’t see every superhero movie, but I did go to see this one over the weekend. I thought the first one was largely set-up for the Avengers movie, with a strong “we told you this story so we could tell you that one” vibe, but it turns out “The First Avenger” was equal parts set up for the Avengers as well as this sequel. If I had kids, they’d be able to say, “This is not my father’s Captain America.” They made Captain America dark. Big whoop. Having said that, though, it is a good adaptation of Ed Brubaker’s Cap (and I do like that), kind of filtered for a mainstream audience. I don’t know if it would appeal to anyone who hadn’t seen the first one, though, unless all one was looking for was an action-driven popcorn flick, in which case, “if this is the sort of thing you like, then you’ll like this” (as Don Thompson used to say). It’s better than Daredevil or Wolverine, and about as good as Avengers or Thor. It’s still just a movie, though.
3 Helicarieers? SHIELD must have the greatest budget of all time :) Just one of those things must cost a mint.
I don’t see every superhero movie, but I did go to see this one over the weekend. I thought the first one was largely set-up for the Avengers movie, with a strong “we told you this story so we could tell you that one” vibe, but it turns out “The First Avenger” was equal parts set up for the Avengers as well as this sequel. If I had kids, they’d be able to say, “This is not my father’s Captain America.” They made Captain America dark. Big whoop. Having said that, though, it is a good adaptation of Ed Brubaker’s Cap (and I do like that), kind of filtered for a mainstream audience. I don’t know if it would appeal to anyone who hadn’t seen the first one, though, unless all one was looking for was an action-driven popcorn flick, in which case, “if this is the sort of thing you like, then you’ll like this” (as Don Thompson used to say). It’s better than Daredevil or Wolverine, and about as good as Avengers or Thor. It’s still just a movie, though.
I meant "It's still just a movie... in comparison to a comic book." I have yet to see a superhero movie I like more than the [best example of the] comic book it's based on.
I think the interesting thing about the WS movie is that it will tie into AOS on the tv, I don't think that there has been a case like that before, where a movie was tied into the same universe as a tv show and had an effect on it. When they did the Batman movie it didn't matter at all to the series. There have been cases where a series went to movie, Firefly comes to mind. You have in effect the Agents of Shield tv show sandwiched between the Avengers and Winter Soldier. I think it is the to credit of the producers that they are doing that, making it almost a regular series comic and two big events.
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My wife hasn't seen the first one, and liked this one quite a bit. And not just for the eye candy, which is the main appeal (and a strong one) of Arrow.
No one's mentioned my favorite little detail is the quote on Nick Fury's grave: "The path of the righteous man..." Could Nick actually be Jules Winnfield, having quit the hitman game and walking the earth? It's so rare to have an in-joke in a comic book movie that isn't referencing a comic book, but I laughed out loud when I saw that.
This is certainly the most extensive interplay between movies and a currently airing TV show. Though I've heard that there was a ship in Deep Space Nine that was mentioned to be damaged from the events of a Next Generation movie, but that was only an incidental nod to continuity. Nothing of the scale of what's going on at Marvel.
Mark S. Ogilvie said:
I think the interesting thing about the WS movie is that it will tie into AOS on the tv, I don't think that there has been a case like that before, where a movie was tied into the same universe as a tv show and had an effect on it. When they did the Batman movie it didn't matter at all to the series. There have been cases where a series went to movie, Firefly comes to mind. You have in effect the Agents of Shield tv show sandwiched between the Avengers and Winter Soldier. I think it is the to credit of the producers that they are doing that, making it almost a regular series comic and two big events.
The other example I can think of is the X-Files movie, which came out in the middle of that series. Of course, I didn't think it impacted the show as much as it SHOULD have...
Mark S. Ogilvie said:
I think the interesting thing about the WS movie is that it will tie into AOS on the tv, I don't think that there has been a case like that before, where a movie was tied into the same universe as a tv show and had an effect on it. When they did the Batman movie it didn't matter at all to the series. There have been cases where a series went to movie, Firefly comes to mind. You have in effect the Agents of Shield tv show sandwiched between the Avengers and Winter Soldier. I think it is the to credit of the producers that they are doing that, making it almost a regular series comic and two big events.