I'm collecting CDs of the music I used to have on LP before I sold my albums back in the '80s. Plus I want CDs of music I never had on LP before I sold my albums, but have always wanted to have anyway! I want to get these things before I die. Hence, bucket list.
Even though I know that's not how music is consumed these days. You're supposed to give your life over to the Internet and AI to get music. I understand that. It's the "new way," as they say in Clockwork Orange. A new broom sweeps clean.
But nah. Let the youngs do that. I'm old, and how I learned to appreciate music was off Top 40 radio in the '60s. Which made me buy a component stereo system with my newspaper-route money in the '70s. And buy albums up to and through the '80s, while I listened to AOR FM radio stations. I went to sleep every night through high school listening to King Crimson and Mott the Hoople on FM 103 in the glow of the radio dial of my $150 receiver, and via my $200, knee-high speakers, that I had bought myself. And you want me to listen to commercials on Pandora? Where's the magic in that?
And, boy howdy, I had a great record collection back then. I had the "Thick as a Brick" album with the fold-out newspaper inside. I had the "Sticky Fingers" album with the working zipper. And so forth.
But I was in my 20s and kept moving from job to job and state to state. While carting all those albums around. And they were HEAVY and FRAGILE, which is a bad combination. You couldn't trust them to friends or movers. You had to personally cart them to your car, and drive them to your new place, and cart them inside. When you had about 300 other things to worry about. So when CDs came along, I thought, "albums have become the new 8-tracks or casette tapes." And I had already gone through those transitions. And, to paraphrase Men In Black, I had already bought the White Album about three times.
TBH, I didn't really believe that LPs had become obsolete, like 8-tracks. But I was tired of carting the LPs around and wanted to believe it. Plus, with CDs, you didn't have to get up from the couch and turn the record over. So, in the late '80s, I sold hundreds of original 1960s and 1970s rock 'n' roll albums to some resale place in Panama City, Florida. Or maybe Memphis. For about $200.
Yeah, it still stings.
So now I'm going to fix it. Before I die. I'm going to get all the albums that I plan to listen to for the rest of my life. Many of which are albums I used to have on LP. Now I have to get them on CD. But I DON'T want to get more CDs that I'll just listen to once, and never again. (I already have plenty of those.) I want the classics. Or, more to the point, the songs that I grew up with, and now want to grow old with.
Which means this list won't be universal. In fact, I don't expect ANYONE to have the same bucket list as me. But I do hope everyone will chime in with their own choices, and to discuss mine. Because this is a forum! So here we go:
THE BEATLES
To me, the Fab Four are ground zero. Every time I listen to their catalog, I learn something new -- not necessarily about THEM, but about the times they produced their music and the times I grew up in. The insight, brother, the insight!
But also I do, actually, learn more about the songs when I listen to them as an old grown-up. (How could I have made all those Ringo jokes as a kid? He's PERFECT.) As I get older, The Beatles just get better and better. How could those twentysomethings have been so good? How could they have leaped forward album to album, and dragged the world with them? They were, in fact, just four working-class kids from a second-class port in England. But they changed the world. They certainly changed mine.
So I have to have:
- Please, Please Me
- With the Beatles
- A Hard Day's Night
- Beatles for Sale
- Help!
- Rubber Soul
- Revolver
- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
- The Beatles
- Yellow Submarine
- Abbey Road
- Let It Be
Amazingly, if you buy all these albums, you still won't have all the major Beatles songs. Singles like "Paperback Writer" never appeared on an album, U.S or UK, because of the economic mechanics of the time. You have to get CDs like "One" and "Past Masters" to get them all. I have those, but I'm still not sure I have everything. I do have the two songs they sang in German (which are a hoot), on whatever album they were on, so I have some variants. But I'm not sure if I have everything. Not that it matters. I recently inherited "Anthology" from a friend who died, and I haven't been able to push through it. I don't need all the variants. I just need to tap my toes to what I already know.
THE WHO
I used to have the entire Who catalog through "Who Are You," which is about when I stopped buying vinyl. And you know what? I don't need to replace it all. There was a lot of genuine crap I don't need to listen to again. But I do need these:
- My Generation
- A Quick One/Happy Jack
- The Who Sell Out
- Tommy
- Who's Next
- Quadrophenia
- The Who by Numbers
- Who Are You
- Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy
Holy cow, that turns out to be the band's discography before 1980! I guess I can live with the crap for all the great stuff there. Especially now that Keith Moon and John Entwhistle have died. And I hear that "Live at Leeds" is the greatest live album of all time, from any band, so I guess I have to get that. (I have never heard it.) But I can pass on "Face Dances" and later work. I do want some of Townshend's solo work like "Empty Glass" and "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes." Most of it is pretentious, self-indulgent crap, but there are some remarkable and unforgettable songs there like "Gonna Get Ya." And I don't know what album "Eminence Front" is on, but I need that.
THE ROLLING STONES
When some department store in Memphis was closing (I don't remember which one), they had a clearance sale, and my wife and I happened to be there, and it happened to be at the same time that the entire Stones catalog was being re-packaged and re-sold, so they were all there, at dirt-cheap prices. So we bought the whole Stones catalog! The whole damned thing! I mention this, because I would never have bought some early Stones LPs otherwise.
And I have listened to them. Some of which I will never bother to listen to again. The Stones started out as a blues cover band, and they weren't very good until Paul McCartney showed them that writing their own songs was the way to go. Also, they had to get rid of Brian Jones. After which, they exploded.
Which is not to say that I don't love the Stones. I do, I do. I love them more than The Who. I listened to "Exile on Main Street" non-stop for about a year in college. I have seen them in concert three times. (I never go to concerts. Unless it's the Stones.) But the Stones have fewer must-have albums than The Who, so they have ended up here, at No. 3. Here are the ones I can't live without:
- Aftermath
- Sticky Fingers
- Black and Blue
- Let It Bleed
- Some Girls
- Exile on Main Street
- Beggars Banquet
After the "Big 3," everyone else is pretty interchangeable. Some bands I only want "best ofs," like The Doors and Doobie Brothers. Because the majority of their albums are crap, except for the songs you know.
BLIND FAITH
They only made one album, "Blind Faith." You know every song on it. You know every member of this band, from other bands.
CREAM
They made four albums. I only need the last three:
- Disraeli Gears
- Wheels on Fire
- Goodbye Cream
LED ZEPPELIN
I don't know what's on any individual Led Zeppelin album, because I bought a box set years ago and just listen to some of the CDs over and over. Some discs I don't need to listen to ever again ("In Through the Out Door," "Coda"). But the first four or five albums are must-haves. "Whole Lotta Love" and "Immigrant Song" alone.
PINK FLOYD
- Animals
- Wish You Were Here
- Dark Side of the Moon
- The Wall
MOODY BLUES
- In Search of the Lost Chord
- Day of Future Passed
VELVET UNDERGROUND
- Velvet Underground & Nico
BOB DYLAN
- Blonde on Blonde
- Highway 61 Revisited
- Blood on the Tracks
CSNY
- Crosy, Stills & Nash
- Deja Vu
JETHRO TULL
- Thick as a Brick
- Aqualung
NEIL YOUNG
- Harvest
- After the Gold Rush
KING CRIMSON
- In the Court of the Crimson King
DEREK & THE DOMINOS
- Layla & Other Love Songs
MOTT THE HOOPLE
- All the Young Dudes
TRAFFIC
- The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys
- John Barleycorn Must Die
DAVID BOWIE
- Ziggy Stardust
FRANK SINATRA
- In the Wee Small Hours
BEACH BOYS
- Pet Sounds
- Surf's Up
HEART
- Dreamboat Annie
- Little Queen (for "Barracuda")
TOM PETTY
- Wildflowers
- Damn the Torpedos
- Full Moon Fever
BEETHOVEN
- Ninth Symphony
- Fifth Sympony
STRAVINSKY
- Rite of Spring
MUSSORGSKY
- Night on Bald Mountain
ELVIS PRESLEY
- Elvis
- Elvis Presley
WARREN ZEVON
- Warren Zevon
- Excitable Boy
THE CLASH
- The Clash
- London Calling
- Sandinista
JOHN LENNON
- Plastic Ono Band
- Imagine
- Shaved Fish (best of)
GEORGE HARRISON
- All Things Must Pass
- Living in the Material World
RINGO STARR
- Ringo
PAUL MCCARTNEY
- McCartney
- Ram
- Venus & Mars
- Band on the Run
I've never heard "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard" or "Flaming Pie," but they keep popping up on "best of" lists. I guess I'll have to listen to them at some point and decide.
YES
- Close to the Edge
- Fragile
Now we get to the part where I'm really ignorant. What Roy Orbison do I need ("Pretty Wonan," obviously)? What Buddy Holly?
Also, Granny's getting tired (Missouri Breaks reference). I can't remember all the bands and/or singers I like. So I've probably forgotten a few. Which is what you guys are going to remind me of, right?
EDIT: LEGIONNAIRE RECOMMENDATIONS
- The Who - Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy - a collection of their Sixties singles and EP tracks.
- Jethro Tull - Stand Up
- Mott the Hoople - Mott
- Beach Boys - Today and Summer Days/Summer Nights
- Roy Orbison: The All-Time Greatest Hits of Roy Orbison
- Roy Orbison: A Black and White Night
- Buddy Holly: The Buddy Holly Collection
- Brian Wilson: Smile
- The Who: The Who Hits 50!
- The Who: FACE
- Traveling Wilburys: Volume 1
- Traveling Wilburys: Volume 3
- Moody Blues: The Concert at Red Rocks
- John Lennon - Double Fantasy
- Paul McCartney - Tug of War
- George Harrison - Somewhere in England
- Ringo Starr - Stop and Smell the Roses
- Chicago: Chicago IX
- Eagles: The Long Run
- Eagles: The Very Best of the Eagles
- Chicago: The Very Best of Chicago - Only the Beginning
- Stevie Wonder: Music of My Mind
- Stevie Wonder: Talking Book
- Stevie Wonder: Innervisions
- Stevie Wonder: Fulfillingness First Finale
- Stevie Wonder: Songs in the Key of Life
- Joe Walsh: But Seriously Folks
- John Lennon: Lennon
- Eagles: Desperado
- Tom Petty: Hard Promises
- Jethro Tull: Original Masters
- Elton John: Elton John
- Elton John: Tumbleweek Connection
- Elton John: Madman Across the Water
- Elton John: Honky Chateau
- Elton John: Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
- Elton John: Made in England
- Elton John: The Union
- Elton John: Captain Fantastic
- Elvis Costello-- the greatest hits compilation from the late 90s would do, though I like My Aim is True.
- Bruce Springsteen: Born to Run.
- Marvin Gaye: What's Going On
- The B-52s: Time Capsule: Songs for a Future Generation
- The Pogues: Rum, Sodomy, and the Last, If I Should Fall From Grace With God, Hell's Ditch
- Indigo Girls - Rites of Passage
- Tears for Fears-- Songs from the Big Chair
- Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America
- Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
- The Tragically Hip - Yer Favourites (unless you're really into the band, this will cover it)
- Ringo: Photograph: The Very Best of Ringo Starr
- Don Henley: Building the Perfect Beast
- Glenn Frey: The All-nighter
- Don Henley: The End of the Innocence
- Pete Townshend: The Best of Pete Townsend - coolwalkingsoothtalkingstraightsmokingfirestoking
- Pete Townshend: Truancy - The Very Best of Pete Townsend - (17 songs, 2015)
- Otis Redding: The Soul Album
- The Doobie Brothers - Best of the Doobies
- The Dog Night - 20th Century Masters, the Millennium Collection
- The Monkees - Greatest Hits
- Kinks: The Village Green Preservation Society
- Kinks: Best of 1964-1970
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A vinyl EP is the same size as a 45. An EP on CD (which is what these are) is the same size as a compact disc, it just has fewer songs.
An EP is just an LP with fewer songs on it. Maybe four to six total, not four to six (or more) on each side.
Your average LP holds about 25 minutes' worth of music, max, on each side. An EP just doesn't use the full capacity of the disc. .
You're thinking of a 12" single. An "Extended Play" record has more songs per side, not fewer (except on CD, as noted above, for which the terminology has carried over).
A good example is the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour. In Britain, it was released as a (double) EP, but in the States, Capital Records added five songs and made an LP of it. I pictured them both together to show the relative size.
In summation: an EP on vinyl has more songs than a 45, but an EP on CD has fewer than a full album.
SOLO EAGLES / "LIVE" ALBUMS / ROSETTA THARPE:
Don Henley's Building the Perfect Beast (1984) really resonated with me, as did Glenn Frey's The Allnighter (1984). Henley's follow-up, The End of the Innocence (1989) was stronger than Frey's Soul Searchin' (1988), but both are worth listening to. In 1987, Joe Walsh released his eighth studio album, Got Any Gum? When he was on The Late Show promoting it, David Letterman asked him about its unusual title. Walsh explained that he was walking down Hollywood Boulevard when he was accosted by a homeless man. Walsh was certain that the guy was going to hit him up for money, but all he said was, "Got any gum?"
When the Eagles reunited for their "Hell Freezes Over" tour in 1994, they released a live album with four new studio tracks: "Get Over It," "Love will Keep Us Alive," "The Girl From Yesterday" and "Learn to Be Still." (and let us not forget the CD single "Hole in the World" from 2003.) Prior to Hell Freezes Over, the Eagles in concert were represented by Eagles Live (1980), but like Beach Boys' Party, this recording was heavily retouched in the studio before release. Which brings me up to the Beatles' Let It Be.
Let It Be, the Beatles' last album (released, not recorded), was to have been a "record" of the Beatles making an album live in the studio. Tensions were running high at the time, and Paul wanted to turn it over to his father-in-law to be produced, but the other Beatles objected. The project was eventually turned over to Phil Spector, who added strings and a female choir and all sorts of other enhancements that were the antithesis of the Beatles' original intent. (John Lennon later commented, "At least when I heard it I didn't puke.") Fortunately, Let It Be... Naked, the recordings stripped of Spector's enhancements, was released in 2003.
I guarantee that anyone faminiar with the 20 seconds or so of "nonsense" chatter at the beginning of the album version of "Get Back" will find THIS VIDEO interesting.
BREAKING NEWS:
New Rolling Stones album to be released July 10!
Foreign Tongues
THE ROLLING STONES (Pt. 1 - The '60s):
The first Rolling Stones album I ever bought was Hot Rocks (which is a good place to start if you're starting late, as I was). Having said that, I would recommend the following four (to a tyro, not to you)...
Taken together, the two "Big Hits" packages are an excellent look at the early years, and the other two are the Stones' best albums of the decade. More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) digs a little deeper. Beyond that, the three-disc Singles Collection: The London Years is a more comprehensive look at their time on the Abkco label. Put another way, the Singles Collection is to the Stonaes as Past Masters is to the Beatles. But the four I listed are the bare essentials. You know who else is a big Rolling Stones fan? Mike Parnell.
Through the Past Darkly with the original octagonal cover was the first Rolling Stones album for me. I played it a lot during my high school years. Going from Paint It Black to Dandelion to 2000 Light Years From Home to Jumpin' Jack Flash, it represents the most eclectic period in the bands history.
I certainly don't want to add to your already daunting challenge Captain but out of curiosity, have you given any consideration to Three Dog Night, The Doobie Brothers and The Monkees?
I don't know anything about Three Dog Night, except the meaning of the phrase. Which isn't helpful!
I had Best of the Doobies in vinyl, and now I expect to hear those songs in that order! The brain is.a weird thing, and I'm sure it would protest if I heard then in a different order. I have Best of the Doobies on CD, and I think I'm content. Unless you have more recommendations.
I loved The Monkees TV show, because I was precisely the right age to want to live in a clubhouse with my best friends, never have to go to school, and never answer to an adult. But it was clear on the "music videos" on the show that Mickey Dolenz was miming playing the drums (and not well). (I have read that he eventually learned them well enough to play in concert, where I fully expect there was a back-up drummer on stage or behind a curtain.) Anyway, it raised the suspicion in Li'l Me that none of them were playing their instruments (although Peter Tork and Mike Nesmith doubtless were, and Davy Jones onlyl "played" the tambourine). So, despite liking some of their songs (I remember "Daydream Believer," which is actually a pretty sad song, despite the peppy delivery) I always felt like I was being tricked somehow, music-wise. I know the full story now, and don't feel tricked any more, but I think this is another band where "best hits" would suffice. The Archies, too.
A couple of weeks ago I heard an early Stones song I had never heard before on YouTube. It inspired me, over the course of the next several days, to listen to their catalogue from the beginning through Flowers (stopping short of Their Satanic Magesties Request). [I generaly listen to the Stones a decade or so at a time, depending on my mood, and I hadn't listened to this '60s stuff in quite a while.]
I was so inspired by this song and the announcement on sunday that a new album was forthcoming in July, that yesterday I went to my LRS to see what unusual Stones music I could find. I didn't find exactly what I was looking for, but to paraphrase the song, I found what I needed. I bought two discs: Down to the Wire - Alternate Studio Instrumentals 1966-1971 and An Acoustic Evening with the Rolling Stones - Original Radio Broadcast Recording. the first is exactly what it purports to be; the second is sure to becaome one of my "go-to" discs in years to come. I don't really know anything about it, not even what year it was released, but the two most recent songs ("Out of Tears" and "sweethearts Together") are from Voodoo Lounge (1994). Other oddities include Keith Richard's singing the Bratles' "Please Please Me" and "Buddy Holly's "Crying Waiting Hoping." Which brings me up to...
THE ROLLING STONES (Pt. 2 - The '70s): The three best albums of the 1970s are...
(The reissues of Exile and Some Girls both have an additional disc of rehearsals and jams not to be missed.)
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