First the Bold Bird of Banditry,
Next the Frozen Felon,
My own personal theories is that both have a good side to them. Captain Cold has been shown to have a benevolent nature underneath the ice. And I could see a retired Oswald Cobblepot running an exotic bird shop, regaling the neighborhood children about how often he baffled the Bat while giving them a safe haven from the streets.
Anyway, how do you feel about DC's newest TV stars? And where would you rate them in their respective (or disrespective) rogues galleries?
I'd forgotten about that Joker appearance, Phillip, so thanks for correcting me.
And thanks especially for recognizing and addressing my main point, that a Penguin appearance in a Gardner Fox Justice League of America story doesn't mean he's a big-time villain. That doesn't seem to be the criteria that Fox was using.
I initially wrote that Schwartz's and Fox's villain choices may have been partly shaped by a concern about using major villains from series edited by other editors. By the time the Penguin and the Joker appeared Schwartz was editing the Bat-titles. But Angle Man probably was Wonder Woman's major foe in the period. The Parasite didn't debut until 1966, Black Manta 1967.
Captain Comics said:
The Commander and Mr. Silver Age will likely correct me, but I think they dropped the angle of Cold looking for love after his second or third appearance . . . .
Actually, Captain Cold's fickle infatuations became something of a running gag throughout the Silver-Age Flash run.
As you mentioned, Cap, it started with Cold falling for Iris West, in The Flash # 114 (Aug., 1960). Iris' decidedly negative response to that caused the Frigid Felon to turn his ardour toward fashion model Miss Twist, as seen in The Flash # 134 (Feb., 1963). This was followed by a number of further infatuations:
Television model Priscilla "Dream Girl" Varner, in The Flash # 140 (Nov., 1963)
Ayesha, the Maharanee of Jodapur, in The Flash # 150 (Feb., 1965)
Silent-film actress Laura Lamont, in The Flash # 193 (Dec., 1969).
Thanks, Commander! I remember Iris and the film star, but the rest didn't stick with me.
Philip Portelli said:
Fox did use the Joker in #34 and Luthor in #61. Did he use them properly is another question. I would say no, especially regarding Luthor.
Interestingly both stories revolved around schemes of Doctor Destiny and he included the Penguin in #61 as well!
I've also heard the argument that Penguin is Batman's smartest foe. Supposedly he loses because his ego causes him to want to fight Batman face to face, whereas he'd win if he set his plans in order then stayed away. Thinking of Batman's rogues' gallery, I'd always think "Joker, Penguin, Riddler..."
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And wasn't that a great closing song? And what did we get for live action? Na na na na na na na...Batman!
How many people unfamiliar with the comics that saw Batman Adventures think Captain Cold is Mister Freeze with a different name?