Thinking about the latest twists in the Thor saga, I thought about the Silver Age Thor so I was wondering--

  • when Odin deposited the newly created Don Blake in front of that medical college, did he think up a complete backstory for the guy, with paperwork and creditials? I know it was the 60s but you still had to have a college diploma to be a doctor!
  • Was it ever confirmed exactly what kind of doctor Blake was? He appeared to be a general practioner (gp) until he had to do complicated surgery.
  • Did Odin ever worry about Don Blake getting, well, killed somehow?
  • How long did it take for Thor's persona/memories to come back? In his first appearance, it was Blake transformed into Thor but soon, Thor's personality took over. It really was very similar to Bruce Banner and the Hulk.
  • Mjolnir was charmed that none but Thor could hold it but it wasn't super-heavy or else Thor would be crashing through the floor, among other things. But if he placed it inside a car, say, could you drive away with it, theoritically?
  • Did Thor truly love Jane Foster or was it Don Blake's emotions?
  • Did Thor have access to Don Blake's knowledge because sometimes the Thunder God seemed confused by technology/modern times?
  • And was Odin Thor's greatest foe or was there meaning to the All-Father's seeming madness?

 

 

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Say, What?!

the_original_b_dog said:

Two words:

Chromosomatic gland.

I love this stuff. Back to reading.

He's referring, of course, to JIM #94, in which Loki whacks Thor on the back of his head, where his "chromosomatic gland" is located. That gland controls personality, and Loki knows just how to whack it to turn Thor (wait for it) evil.

Mayhem ensues as the two gods wreak havoc upon Earth and demand that Odin turn over Asgard to them or they'll destroy Earth. Odin, being all-knowing (and not partial to turning over his kingdom to his sons every time they threatened to destroy Earth), knew how to whack Thor on his chromosomatic gland to turn him good again, and a crisis of infinite proportions was averted.

That's right up there with the time that The Atom saved himself after he'd been flattened out with an "atomic iron" by using his adrenal glands to pump up his juices.

You can't beat comic book science!

-- MSA

I'm sure it wasn't the first time that Odin had to smack his sons up their fool-heads!

But hey it cured Hawkeye in The Avengers movie!

Yes, JIM 94. They destroy the Eiffel Tower and Taj Mahal, among other world landmarks, and it's all in continuity. The ending is that the Asgardians will use their supernatural powers to repair the damage and Odin will mind-wipe the world. These are the Berns-Sinnott issues I'm finishing, and the stories just have a feel that are unlike most Marvels. Thor still strikes me as a Superman rip-off, and the only thing that sets him apart is the Asgardians. Eventually, they realize that. But for now, it's kinda like watered-down DC.

I'll take a whack at these...

1. If Odin could create a nice blue suit and brown shoes, he could create some excellent test scores.

2. Never specified, but medicine was a lot less specialized in the early 60s.  Dr. Blake was a doctor like Dr. Kildaire - he did whatever was necessary, unless you needed a specialist who was locked up behind the Iron Curtain or something.

3. I'll bet not.

4. Although Thor's memories of Asgard did return after being hypnotized by Loki in the 3rd story, the full memory didn't return until 1969, when the "thou art lacking in - humility!" story was finally revealed.   

5. Yes - and if Thor were knocked unconscious and the hammer was in his belt, you could pick both of them up.  It was established that mechanical objects -- automatic grabbers and even robots -- could also lift the hammer out of Thor's hand.  But no LIVING thing could lift it.

6. I think he truly loved Jane Foster -- but the question is whether or not his gradual forgetting of her was due in part to Odin's magic.  Odin often said he couldn't affect the human heart, but after parting from Jane in 1967 Thor wondered aloud  why he had lost interest in her so quickly.  In a way, this is one of the more realistic comic romances in the first 30 years of superheroes -- Daddy was, basically, right about your girlfriend.  You can do better, son.  That's a hard lesson to accept.  It's also intriguing that a lot of early Marvel heroes had love interests that didn't last.  Peter Parker and Betty Brant, the Human Torch and (the dreadful) Dorrie Evans, Tony Stark and Pepper Potts, Daredevil and Karen Page.  A lot of us had first loves or long-standing relationships -- but we married someone else.

7. Thor had access to the BASICS of Blake's MEDICAL knowledge -- he could identify a symptom although he was unable to operate (fingers too big or not skilled enough) and when Ego, the Living Planet tried to spook him with angry organisms, Thor knew exactly what he was up against.  But taxis and milk shakes were exotic things.  I suppose this makes some sense -- the things Blake learned by studying were retained but not physical experiences.  Or maybe it doesn't make any sense at all.

8. Certainly, with a dad like Odin you almost don't need a brother like Loki.  And Loki, whatever you say about him, had a better grip on his temper than the All-Father.  The early Marvel heroes had a lot of father issues -- or were given father issues later on.  Thor's family dynamics were almost on a Jungian level.

Good to see you again, JGG.

 

I've a Thor question. In Silver Age Marvel comics, was Loki adopted?

Never specified, but medicine was a lot less specialized in the early 60s.  Dr. Blake was a doctor like Dr. Kildaire - he did whatever was necessary, unless you needed a specialist who was locked up behind the Iron Curtain or something.

I'm now picturing Jim Phelps flipping through his IMF portfolio looking for one of those occasional 1-shot "special expert" guest stars for the team (often a doctor), and pulling out an 8x10 glossy of Don Blake.

I thought I read Loki was a half brother the other night.

I believe this is answered in a Tales of Asgard episde..."The Coming of Loki"... which will be drawn by Kirby and inked by Colleta, as I recall the final panel where (llike in Roots), little babe Loki is lifted high above all Assembled  Asgard by Odin and proclaimed to be his son.  I'll have to dig for the issue number if you don't mind waiting.

Luke Blanchard said:

Good to see you again, JGG.

 

I've a Thor question. In Silver Age Marvel comics, was Loki adopted?

A better question would be Did Loki KNOW he was adopted? Thor always treated him like his brother period and Odin his son period.

Another question: Did Thor know who his real mother was? And did Frigga, Odin's wife, appear much, if at all?

And yes welcome Mr Goldin and Mr _b_dog! Always great to hear other opinions and theories!

Getting back to Jane Foster, did Thor love her as Thor? Or was it because Don Blake fell in love with her?

There are several stories where Thor clearly loves Jane Foster.  And the consciousness of one is very much a continuation into the other.

Did Loki KNOW he was adopted? I don't recall that being pointed out, but he is clearly aware of and scheming against his half brother. That is mentioned several times.

I don't recall Frigga, Odin's wife ever showing up in the main Thor adventures, and so, if she showed up at all in Tales of Asgard, it was only as a cameo.  I don't recall ANY significant appearances or roles for her at all.

But please, if someone does remember her, prove me wrong.

 

Thanks, gents. I remembered Simonson's Loki calling himself "Laufey's son", so I was wondering. In mythology Loki was Odin's blood-brother rather than his son.

 

Wikipedia tells me that in mythology Laufey was Loki's mother, whereas Marvel used the name for his father. (It also says "Eddic poetry refers to Loki by the matronym Loki Laufeyjarson rather than with a patronymic", so it might be, but this is just a wild speculation, that Lee or Kirby's source for the name mistook it for the name of his father.)

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