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Lee Houston, Junior said:

Cap:

For what it's worth, I hang on to my original issues whenever possible.

Collections of Silver and Bronze Age material don't include things like house ads, letter columns, or reprints; especially in regards to the 48, 52, 80, and 100 page issues.

All those volumes offer is what was then the new material plus the cover, so you get the "main event" of that issue without the true flavor of the times involved.

Now if you're talking in regards to anything published past the original Crisis On Infinite Earths, that's a different matter.

If the collection is about the same price as the sum total of the original floppies involved or you can buy it on sale, I'd say "go for it", because a lot of publications today just don't have the "feel" of their predecessors, if you know what I mean.

Just my 2 cents on the subject.

I hear you, Lee.

My situation is that I have Marvel and DC more or less complete from 1962 to 2010. I have most Silver Age superhero comics from other publishers as well. That's more than 120 longboxes packed as tight as I can pack 'em.

I no longer pull out those old Silver Age books for any reason whatsoever, despite needing to scan the covers for one column or another. They just keep getting older and more fragile. The worth of those books keep going up, but the condition keeps deteriorating, bringing that worth down. At some point those factors will reach equilibrium, and then the books will start to lose value.

I need to sell them before that happens.

There is also the chance of a catastrophic event; a fire or roof failure or earthquake. Then they're not worth anything.

I need to sell them before that happens.

As I said, they are no longer useful for research. I have most Silver Age material replaced in one collection or another, and intend to continue that process. There are also online sites where I can read old books, some authorized and some not, but the material is there. I don't need the books for that.

I could stop the deterioration by CGCing them, but it's a LOT of books, and that's expensive. I see no reason to spend a lot of money for essentially making the same amount when I sell them.

I would sell them today, but both the wife and I are employed, so we will be taxed at the maximum for any sudden influx of cash. So I intend to hold on to the books until I'm retired, and my income is more or less zero, and then sell them. The tax will be considerably less, and the profit maximized.

Yes, the collections don't include the letters pages, ads, inside covers and the like. Actually, when Marvel started its Omnibus line, they DID include those things. That's why I initially shifted to them from the Marvel Masterworks, a decision I've come to regret.

But I've made the decision that letters pages, et al, aren't as important as the considerations I've listed above. So I'll just eventually not have those things.

Will it matter? I'm a lot closer to the end than the beginning, and can see most of the 20 years or so I have left, and don't see any reason I'd ever need, say, the letters page to Amazing Spider-Man #19. Maybe I will, but does that "maybe" outweigh the certainty of the risks I've listed in hanging onto the books?

I dunno. I've got my plan, and intend to stick to it, barring any serious changes in the factors I'm weighing.  But I am listening to other opinions, like yours, Lee. I could change my mind.

Regarding collections (and which kind) vs. originals, I have long since run out of room for my originals (which I call “periodicals,” BTW, never “floppies”) and I would be happy to liquidate anything I have duplicated in hardcover collections. There are two things stopping me, though: 1) I don’t have the time, and 2) I don’t think I’d be patient enough to get what they’re worth. My plan right now is imply to let Tracy deal with them after I die. (Actually, my wish is to be cremated on a pyre of longboxes, but that’s probably not going to happen.)

I never did get the impression that it was Marvel’s intention to transfer all of their classic series into omnibus format. The first 100 or so issues of Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and “All-New, All-Different” X-Men, yes, but beyund that? I wouldn’t hold my breath. (The next Hulk omnibus will be a Peter David volume.) I continue to collect Marvel Masterworks, but I’ve either dropped or am fixin’ to drop several of the series. For example, I have Kirby-era mid-‘70s Captain America in omnibus format, so I’m not going to duplicate it in Masterworks format. (I plan to resume once they get to the Gerber era after, say three volumes.)

Similarly, I have all of the Byrne-era Fantastic Four in two Omnibus editions, so after one more Masterwork, I’ll be done for a while. Spider-Man, too. There’s just one volume to go before it gets to the Roger Stern Spider-Man omnibus.

On another note, I am so far behind on my PS Artbook reading (I have all of those, too) I don’t even want to think about it. Sometimes I am in the mood to read “bad” comics, but I am currently leading four discussions of comic books I actually enjoy, so I’m going to keep doing that as long as the mood lasts.

"TRUE BELIEVERS" HULK: I enjoyed the reprint of #324 so much last week that I bought $1 reprints of #347 & #377 yesterday. You can't go wrong for a buck!

Just learned about Ryuko  a couple of days ago and like what I've seen so far of the artwork.

Didn't notice any muddled artwork, but am curious to read and experience the story.

Looking to buy Volume 1 when its price drops and have pre-ordered volume 2 for $10.5.

Travis Herrick (Modular Mod) said:

Finished up the first volume of Ryuko, a manga published under the Hard Case Crime  Ryuko is part of the yakuza. We get some kind of heist with scantily clad women, which normally I love, but unless it was on a beach it was hard for me to believe the one girl would be part of the robbery in a bikini. There are some flashbacks to explain some of the characters' motivation. It isn't really going anywhere, until we learn her mother might still be alive. Eh, whatever.

It is in black and white, and in that case you have to be careful with the inks. Which the writer/artist Eldo Yoshimizu was not. So, a lot of the action is muddied by the heavy inks. The next volume is supposed to come out in October, but that is a hard pass for me. 

In response to Jeff of J: We had this debate a few years ago, as I recall. I remember someone being seriously offended that someone called individual issues “floppies” (it wasn’t you, Jeff, but I do wonder where it strikes on your meter). Their interpretation was that they were floppy, and therefore insignificant.


That’s now how I would interpret it at all. I don’t always call them floppies, but I’m sure I sometimes do. But if I thought they were insignificant, I wouldn’t ever buy them. I call them floppies in the way a floppy disk is floppy. It flops when you move it up and down. Yes, a trade paperback does too, but not nearly as much as an individual issue.


Plus, floppy bacon. Delicious! And it flops!

I'm not trying to pick the scab off that old argument, but in case I ever do call them floppies, please don't be offended--it's not where I'm coming from.

Jeff of Earth-J said:

I have long since run out of room for my originals (which I call “periodicals,” BTW, never “floppies”)...

“We had this debate a few years ago…”

I remember.

“I do wonder where it strikes on your meter”

I don’t use the term myself, but I don’t mind that others do.

“Their interpretation was that they were floppy, and therefore insignificant.”

Yeah, I don’t remember who said that, either.

“I call them floppies in the way a floppy disk is floppy.”

That’s part of the reason I don’t use it for comic books: because I associate it with floppy discs. (Plus I just don’t like the term “floppy.”)

“Plus, floppy bacon.”

I have never heard the term “floppy bacon” before. when I was in Scotland last year I discovered a new term for the kind of bacon Americans eat. The Scots’ bacon is what we in the States call Canadian bacon; the Scots call the American variety “stripey bacon.”

“…please don't be offended”

Oh, please. You don’t think I’m that thin-skinned, do you?

For what it's worth, I just call them comic books and prefer my bacon crispy. 

Anyway... has anyone read the first part of the new Millennium mini yet?

Trying to avoid spoilers, the time traveler is who was originally mentioned it being. Personally, still not my first choice, but she does do it the hard way (one day at a time) and it obviously takes a toll on an already troubled psyche.

How she will fit into the Legion at the end of part two (is she supposed to be a member or just a resident of the 32nd century?) remains to be seen.

The most interesting thing (to me) was the presentation order of the time line.

Provided Bendis presented everything chronologically, we go from the present to Supergirl being a matronly President (of either the US or the world) to Batman Beyond, followed by Kamandi (which references a specific Jack Kirby produced issue!) before ending with Tommy Tomorrow.

Based upon the text features afterward, Part 2 is supposed to include OMAC, Booster Gold and the Space Museum before the journey ends with the Legion.

Now while the placement of some of these wayward futures is debatable, I always thought OMAC should be before Kamandi.

The last page of the text section recommends reading (in order) Superman 14, Supergirl 33, and Superman 15 before Millennium 1, but the two part special appears to stand on its own for those interested.

Thoughts?

For what it's worth, I just call them comic books and prefer my bacon crispy. 

Anyway... has anyone read the first part of the new Millennium mini yet?

Trying to avoid spoilers, the time traveler is who was originally mentioned it being. Personally, still not my first choice, but she does do it the hard way (one day at a time) and it obviously takes a toll on an already troubled psyche.

How she will fit into the Legion at the end of part two (is she supposed to be a member or just a resident of the 32nd century?) remains to be seen.

The most interesting thing (to me) was the presentation order of the time line.

Provided Bendis presented everything chronologically, we go from the present to Supergirl being a matronly President (of either the US or the world) to Batman Beyond, followed by Kamandi (which references a specific Jack Kirby produced issue!) before ending with Tommy Tomorrow.

Based upon the text features afterward, Part 2 is supposed to include OMAC, Booster Gold and the Space Museum before the journey ends with the Legion.

Now while the placement of some of these wayward futures is debatable, I always thought OMAC should be before Kamandi.

The last page of the text section recommends reading (in order) Superman 14, Supergirl 33, and Superman 15 before Millennium 1, but the two part special stands on its own for those interested.

Thoughts?

I’ve been busy this week. Here’s where I try to catch up a little.

FLASH FORWARD: Comics has already given us “Tempest Fugit” and the “Tempus Fugitive”; here now is the “Tempus Fuginaut.” Linda Park makes a surprise appearance at Wally West’s prison. Tarkul of Edya 12 tries and fails to claim Metron’s abandoned Moebius Chair. Heroes in Crisis is recapped. The Blackgate prsoners seek revenge. The Tempus Fuginaut contacts the (suicidal) Wally west and awakens the possibility of multi-universal travel. The cliffhanger is Wallay arrive in the universe of Grant Morrison (badly beaten) President Superman. So far, so good.

SECOND COMING #3: My favorite of the AHOY! Comics titles.

HULK: THE END (2002): Just for the helluvit I re-read this one-shot by Peter David and Dale Keown to see how well it jibes with the current Immortal Hulk. (Not bad as it turns out.)

I haven’t even finished reading last week’s books, and I bought more today.

I read Flash Forward, Sunday while I was working at my LCS. I read it out of morbid curiosity, since it was spun out of Heroes in Crisis, which was one of the worst series I've read in years. I didn't like this either, honestly. I thought Tempus Fuginaut was the least interesting thing when he appeared in Sideways. The whole Wally in Blackgate thing, the less said the better.

I did enjoy Metron's chair interlude though.

Jeff of Earth-J said:

FLASH FORWARD: Comics has already given us “Tempest Fugit” and the “Tempus Fugitive”; here now is the “Tempus Fuginaut.” Linda Park makes a surprise appearance at Wally West’s prison. Tarkul of Edya 12 tries and fails to claim Metron’s abandoned Moebius Chair. Heroes in Crisis is recapped. The Blackgate prsoners seek revenge. The Tempus Fuginaut contacts the (suicidal) Wally west and awakens the possibility of multi-universal travel. The cliffhanger is Wallay arrive in the universe of Grant Morrison (badly beaten) President Superman. So far, so good.

I thought it was pretty good, but it definitely felt like half of a comic instead of part one of a two-parter if that makes any sense.

I've heard people saying that it doesn't make any sense to go from Kamandi-future to Tommy Tomorrow-future, but I didn't have a problem with it. Life picks itself back up somehow, and I'm willing to dismiss it.

I did think it was an odd choice to have Rose/Thorn become immortal/long-living for some reason. Not sure what Bendis has in mind for that, but whatever. It's comics!

Lee Houston, Junior said:

Anyway... has anyone read the first part of the new Millennium mini yet?

No, I "know" you better than that. I was talking more to the masses (I can't remember how many people) who were opposed to the word.

Jeff of Earth-J said:

Oh, please. You don’t think I’m that thin-skinned, do you?

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