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And in the Kookie Quartet days, Wanda had google-eyes for Cap, who showed no interest in her. Seems odd that even when Hawkeye thought Natasha was dead or otherwise forever lost to him, he wasn't depicted as having any serious interest in Wanda.
Ron M. said:
It's not surprising Hawkeye would assume Wanda was available. It seemed like he didn't have any competition for her until it was too late to compete. The Black Panther and the Black Knight showed no interest in her that way, Hercules did, but he acted that way with all women (like Jane Foster) and wasn't around that long anyway. Quicksilver was her brother. And the Vision was some kind of robot. Who would have thought she'd fall for the robot?
Seems odd that when he thought Natasha was dead his first thought was to join the Avengers and prove he wasn't a crook. Like she'd put a spell on him and he came out of it as soon as she died. And did he just walk off and leave her lying where he found her? How do you hold someone in your arms, decide they're dead, and walk off leaving them still alive?
I've read it's been established in recent years that Natasha is about as old as Nick Fury to keep her backstory of being a former KBG agent. When did that happen? Even in the 60s, wouldn't she have been quite a bit older than Clint?
I'm pretty sure Natasha's origin as a survivor of the Battle of Stalingrad, or some other WWII battle, wasn't established until much later, so in the Silver Age she might've been a few years older than Clint, maybe 25 to his 20 circa 1965. And, yeah, that flashback scene from Avengers 16 is odd -- you'd think that he would've gone to the hospital with her. Guess it'll have to be chalked up to Clint's insecurities and immaturity that he assumed the worst and didnt' seek to find out what really happened to her-- and Lee, Kirby & Heck being rather slapdash about such plot points at the time.
Of course, it gets even more complicated now that since Tony Stark now didn't become Iron Man until after the end of the Cold War 25 years ago, Clint & Natasha couldn't have met while taking on Iron Man as part of a KGB plot because the KGB wouldn't have existed by then. Not to mention that now Iron Man never fought the Titanium Man and the Crimson Dynamo! At some point Marvel's just gonna have to give up and tell everyone that all the popular characters in their universe get immortality pills which not only keeps them perpetually young or at least healthily middle-aged but also causes them to forget how old they really are, so that now Reed & Ben have no memory of having been World War II veterans and simply stop mentioning it.
Ron M. said:
Seems odd that when he thought Natasha was dead his first thought was to join the Avengers and prove he wasn't a crook. Like she'd put a spell on him and he came out of it as soon as she died. And did he just walk off and leave her lying where he found her? How do you hold someone in your arms, decide they're dead, and walk off leaving them still alive?
I've read it's been established in recent years that Natasha is about as old as Nick Fury to keep her backstory of being a former KBG agent. When did that happen? Even in the 60s, wouldn't she have been quite a bit older than Clint?
I've noticed they pretty much avoid giving you a good look at Hawkeye's new costume on the covers. And I believe it disappears about the same month Barry Smith leaves Marvel. Maybe Roy just accepted it to make him happy and felt once he'd left Conan he could get rid of it. Clint had lousy taste in costumes. Like the chest strap for Goliath II. Or maybe bad costumes coming in was a sign the Silver Age was over.
Thank you John.
See - way too blue
And you're right Ron, they're trying quite hard to hide Hawkeye's costume!
Despite coming in during the last 3rd of the story, I quite enjoyed this issue which I first read as a 10 year old in 1972, and although I missed the next two issues, with 107 I started getting the title regularly, at least whenever I could find the latest issue and enough money on me. Buckler does a beautiful imitation of Neal Adams -- I prefer it a bit over his Kirby-style used in the FF & Thor. Among the things that might have been off-putting to newcomers to Marvel was all the references to previous stories, including those from other titles, as well as ongoing subplots that aren't resolved by the last page. In my case, tho', it made me want more -- I just really dug the growing Marvel mythos. And since I had already been collecting the FF, I'd at least see the resolution of the new "threat" Pietro faced -- a beautiful girl and her really big dog!
Ron M. said:
I've read it's been established in recent years that Natasha is about as old as Nick Fury to keep her backstory of being a former KBG agent. When did that happen? Even in the 60s, wouldn't she have been quite a bit older than Clint?
Fred W. Hill said:
Of course, it gets even more complicated now that since Tony Stark now didn't become Iron Man until after the end of the Cold War 25 years ago, Clint & Natasha couldn't have met while taking on Iron Man as part of a KGB plot because the KGB wouldn't have existed by then.
If someone were to read the original James Bond books, they would note that the state security agency back then was the NKVD, with its (fictional or not) subdivision SMERSH. The KGB replaced the NKVD when (I think) Stalin died. When the USSR broke up the KGB was replaced by the FSB in the Russian Federation. Natasha should probably have a backstory with the FSB today. SSDD
Tying comics characters into real wars, real presidents, and other real events always seems cool at the time and later becomes a pain.
Richard Mantle said:
Yes, the closeness to the Sun from the end of the X-men adventure had somehow mutated the head Sentinel into a mutant-Sentinel and made him the actual enemy he was trying to eradicate!
Did Roy happen to mention why a non-organic robot would mutate and not just melt? Did they establish that the Sentinels had some organic components?
See - way too blue
I think with all the blue a black frame would have worked better. I was going to suggest purple but that conflicts with the Sentinel hands.