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The Patty Duke Show Theme

Another star fallen. I used to watch The Patty Duke Show all the time when I was tiny.  Shame.

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I missed the show entirely, somehow. But I was aware of its existence, and of Patty Duke. Sorry to hear the news.

"Identical cousins" is a crazy concept but she made it work delightfully!



Philip Portelli said:

"Identical cousins" is a crazy concept but she made it work delightfully!

I've read somewhere that "identical cousins" are genetically impossible. I also think I heard that the original plan was for them to be sisters, but the network didn't like the idea of sisters being brought up separately.

i well remember The Patty Duke Show because it was one of those shows that was always in reruns and always was on in the afternoons when I came home from school. I also remember once hearing standup comic Eddie Brill riff on the lyrics in that theme, saying how the American cousin wasn't so innocent ("But Patty loves the rock 'n' roll/A hotdog makes her lose control").

And, of course, Patty Duke went from there to a fine career, earning an Oscar and three Emmy Awards.

Rest in peace, indeed.



The Baron said:



I've read somewhere that "identical cousins" are genetically impossible.

Conceivably, there could be some one-in-a-billion chance that two cousins could, by happenstance, receive the same genetic composition in terms of their appearances to make them identical.  So it's not, strictly speaking, impossible.  But cousins being identical due to their shared relationship, as a matter of rare occurrence---such as in the case of identical twins---does not happen.  So, the statement that "identical cousins" are genetically impossible is essentially correct.

The premise of The Patty Duke Show attempted to account for the identical cousins by establishing that their fathers were identical twins.  (Cathy's father, Kenneth Lane---also portrayed by William Schallert---made a couple of appearances on the show.)  It doesn't hold up scientifically, but at least the show made an effort.

What if their fathers were identical twins who married identical twins?


 Luke Blanchard said:

What if their fathers were identical twins who married identical twins?

It would still be virtually impossible for their offspring to be identical to each other---as explained by one of your countrymen (whose learned brain exceeds my lowly noggin):

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/05/18/2573698.htm

Coincidentally, tomorrow (Wednesday) is John Astin's 86th birthday.

Commander Benson said:

It would still be virtually impossible for their offspring to be identical to each other---as explained by one of your countrymen


If he says so, but sons sometimes look very like their fathers and daughters very like their mothers. (I look like a combination of my father and mother.) The question isn't whether they might be genetically identically, but in appearance very similar, enough to fool people.

I'm a soft mark for the idea that people might mix people up. I do it sometimes. It's why I can buy Superman's Clark Kent disguise. I'd figure it was just one of those cases where two people look alike to me.

They wouldn't be genetically identical, but in some marriages the facial and bodily appearance of the father or mother seems to dominate so that there is greater resemblance between the siblings than is normally the case. If the sibling of the dominate partner married and was also dominant it's possible that some of the cousins would look alike.

DNA from a crime scene might implicate identical twins or triplets since it is identical. If clear fingerprints were found at the scene it would point to only one of the siblings. Fingerprints are not generated by DNA. They are formed in the late stages of fetal development. Some show I watch had crimes committed by a clone of Al Capone. The fingerprints matched Capone's, which is impossible. A clone is an artificially created identical twin. 

If you pay a lot of money to clone your favorite dog or cat, the colors on the coat of the clone will not match the color distribution on your late pet. These patterns, like fingerprints, are not driven by DNA. This actually happened with the first cloned cat.

Commander Benson said:

The premise of The Patty Duke Show attempted to account for the identical cousins by establishing that their fathers were identical twins.  (Cathy's father, Kenneth Lane---also portrayed by William Schallert---made a couple of appearances on the show.)  It doesn't hold up scientifically, but at least the show made an effort.

William Schallert is still around at nearly 94.

About as old as his recurring character, Admiral Hargrade, in Get Smart, nearly fifty years ago!

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