I certainly don't blame Hackman for the campy stuff, or Ned Beatty either.
Most actors are just following the script! Some ad-lib but not
sure if Hackman did?
October 17 Episode:
Snapper Carr? Really? Winn would make a better Snapper than that guy (who looks more like the holographic doctor on Star Trek: Voyager).
And was it Superman or Winn (I forget) who shouted "J'onn!" at the top of his lungs in the DEO HQ? Whichever one it was ought to be more respectful of secret identities.
I know I'm swimming against the current here, but I've never been a fan of those 1980s Superman movies, especially not theit portrayal of Clark Kent. He's supposed to be "mild-mannered," not a weak-kneed klutz. there's also a common perception that the first two movies are somehow "better" than the other two, but I find tham all equally campy. The only good addition to the mythos that came out of those movies was the Kryptonian crystal tech and the fortress.
Just had to get that off my chest.
Wasn't J'onn's identity revealed to the entire DEO? He was arrested for a while, and Lucy Lane was put in charge.
As to Snapper Carr, he won't share anything with his comics counterpart but the name.
I know you're referring to how in the Silver Age the Superman office, run by Mort Weisinger, and the Flash/Green Lantern office, run by Julius Schwartz, didn't share characters much. But it's also a reflection of the Golden Age, when during the war National Comics and All-American Comics were sister companies (Jack Liebowitz was involved in both) that only shared characters in one book: All Star Comics. Otherwise, the Super- and Bat-characters were in one universe, and Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman were in another.
JD DeLuzio said:
Yeah, I took it like the references in the first ep of <i>Buffy</i> to the earlier film, as in, "something vaguely like the movie happened in the past, but let's not get into it."
It would strangely reflect DC's history if Batman and Supergirl and Superman coexisted in one universe, while their other characters lived in the Flash/Arrow-verse. Until late in the Silver Age, the two groups didn't crossover very often, even if they ostensibly shared a universe.
Philip Portelli said:It was probably a similar event like what happened in Superman: The Movie as this Lex was a businessman.
I liked the "new" Superman but he looks so young, and yes, they explain that!
I still can't see Jimmy as "JIMMY OLSEN". James Olsen, yes!
I really thought that it was Lena Luthor who turned Corben into Metallo and I'm glad to be wrong!
Can they introduce Batman to this reality? Would they? Should they?
"Wasn't J'onn's identity revealed to the entire DEO? He was arrested for a while, and Lucy Lane was put in charge."
Oh, yeah. Then why do some people still call him "Hank"?
Dunno. I thought the storyline was kinda stupid -- why put Lucy Lane in charge? Why not somebody who actually works there? -- and didn't pay much attention.
Captain Comics said:
As to Snapper Carr, he won't share anything with his comics counterpart but the name.
And Hank Henshaw. Why do they insist on using comics names for unrelated characters?
Dunno. I thought the storyline was kinda stupid -- why put Lucy Lane in charge? Why not somebody who actually works there? -- and didn't pay much attention.
Lucy was Army JAG but, more significantly, was General Lane's daughter. I think this reflected the thinking that the DEO had been infiltrated/compromised by having a Martian in charge.
Was she THE JAG, or just A JAG. She's a little young (and a little too low in rank) to be THE JAG. Either way, it still looks like nepotism to me, and I don't think it would fly in the real world.
Richard Willis said:
And Hank Henshaw. Why do they insist on using comics names for unrelated characters?
It might be for rights reasons. If the character is a comics character, the TV writers can't claim to have created him.
The choice of the name Hank Henshaw may have been to trick the fans into thinking he was going to be a bad guy.
Worked on me -- I thought he was going to become the Cyborg Superman.