Could Marvel have an " Earth 2 " or sorts , a ME2, for convenient discussion now ???
When Julie and Gardner?? ( in that order ? ) concocted DC's Earth 2 , the characters were originally presented as having been retired for a time , and a touch more grey/wrinkling and a little weaker .
This was more or less forgotten as he SA ended and became the BA .
Marvel has always tended to say " We don't do alternate Earths . Not like DC . " ( And , with DC - After a more than 20 years hiatus , well... - about to reintroduce Earth 2 - But , more about that later . ) But , of course , Marvel has mucho plenty alternate Marvel Earths , they don't have a master " Old Earth " , as Earth-2 , pre-Crisis , was .
What if Marvel declared that , roughly , the first decade of " the modern Marvel Universe " , starting with FF#1 , was a ME2 , up into some time in the early 70s ? Petering out , basically , after Stan Lee stopped taking writers' credits , at different times .
ME2 could be definitely tied to the published Atlas and Timely stories , while Earth-616's 40s & 50s roots could be what is shown in the modern-day stories to have happened in the past .
I've lots more to say about this , but I'm harried on time...
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I suppose the Original, Adjectiveless X-Men -- y'know, Cyclops, The Beast, Marvel Girl, Iceman and The Angel -- could go on one Earth, and Wolverine and All-New Legion of Too Bloody Many X-Men could go on another, for starters ...
Does the whole Tom DeFalco-esque MC2 (a/k/a Earth-982) not count? I always thought of that as "the world where the 60's and 70"s Marvel comics actually happened in the '60's and 70's."
I like that Earth! The mere fact that it exists makes me happy.
Kind of like Family Circus. I don't particularly enjoy reading it, but I'm happy it's there.
Doctor Hmmm? said:
Mayday Parker will always be Spider-Girl to me!
...In the recent past , I got a couple bargain-bin issues of J2 , from the M2 universe , so.........
...To be honest , after I first started this I got a little engrossed by my idea of how ME2 could be set up , socially and technologically.........in a matter that might be a little complicated - and requiring a little too deep a knowledge of politics & social matters - for a comic book , especially company-owned , movie characters , frquent toys ones...Basically I had this idea of " The way people in the 1970s often thought - or feared - the 80s and onward would develop " instead of the way the 80s and onward actually did !!!!!!!!!
I will say this...I had decided that , to an extent , in this world , the U.S.A. and Canada had sort of " changed places " , in their position/" personality " - The U.S. was the " nice " , rather non-aggressive country , and Canada was the " meat-eating "/" kick-ass " rather militarily and economically/technologically agressive land !!!!!!!!!
Mark S. Ogilvie said:
That was Counter-Earth.
Counter-Earth Reed became the Brute, initially in Warlock ##6-7, in a storyline that also featured Counter-Earth's version of Dr Doom, who was good. Brute-Reed returned in Fantastic Four #177-179, 181-183, in a storyline in which he replaced our Reed, having been turned evil by a blow on the head.
Reed-Thing came from an alternative Earth (Earth A), and was introduced in a back-up story in Fantastic Four #118. He returned in ##160-163. On this Earth Ben also received powers on their space jaunt, but Reed removed them for him. Ben had married Sue.
I stand corrected. Thanks again, Luke.
My pleasure. On reflection, I don't think the Earth A name was used: that comes from a 60s JLA storyline. Alternate Earth Johnny had been apparently killed in Vietnam, and turned by Arkon into Gaard.