...Well , I was trying to , finally , get it up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)...........
ACTION #904 , about 3 months ago , would havew been the Mylar Age Supie's last chronological (non-Flashpoint) appearance...Has DC come up with any explanation for why , within the storyline , the Mylar Supie and his world had to die ???
The DCU of your Mylar Superman (love that name) ended with Final Crisis in March 2009.
At the end of that series, Superman and his pals saw that their universe was ending, fatally stricken by entropy. They pack as much as they can of the people and values of their doomed universe, miniaturised, into life-raft style spaceships, so that something of them will continue in the new Universe that will follow theirs.
Very appropriate, no? And it has the advantage of being an ending that is epic in scope, emphasising the heroism and never-say-die loving guardianship of these wonderful heroes. Heroes that saw us through our twenties, and thirties and into middle age!
Better than the pathetic dying whimper they actually got on the way out in 2011, at any rate.
The only problem is that it all happened 2 years before the DCU actually ended.
Which is easily explained.
Final Crisis involved the complete breakdown of the fabric of time and space. It wasn't just the normal breakdown of time and space that accompanied every summer crossover since 1991. No, it caused grown fanmen to weep openly, gnash their teeth, and make judgements on the quantity of hallucinogens slipping down the gullet of a certain Scotsman we all know and love.
A two year time-bubble of pseudo-reality escaping during the existential maelstrom that Darkseid created would be quite plausible, in comicbooky science.
Superman saved the DCU and packed it away safely in March 2009 and what we were reading between then and September 2011 was just the echoes and aftershocks of that seismic event. A zombie universe, unaware that it was dead, merely going through the motions, with increasingly meaningless, desperate and pointless storylines as it tried to deny its own non-existence. This explains the ill-fated, futile "road to nowhere" false starts like JMS' projects and all those irrelevant new status quos set up in Brightest Day.
Final Crisis is your epic ending to a great fictional universe, saved at the last moment by John Byrne's Man of Steel!
Of course, they made so many changes to the Bryne Superman, or as I identified him as Superman III, that the Man of Steel from post-Zero Hour on could be referred to as Superman IV (The Quest for Fanboy Peace). Thus making the DCnU Action Ace Superman V (I Don't Wear Underoos!).
On a personal note, being there for Crisis On Infinite Earths and Man of Steel, I never fully understood why Superman and Wonder Woman's histories had to change so much while the rest of the JLA heroes stayed relatively intact. Except for poor Hawkman, though that was DC's fault!
This time around, the unknown, different, learn as we go backgrounds apply to everyone except Batman and Green Lantern.
What bothered me the most was how Byrne's Superman invaded Who's Who with his nascent version superceding MY Superman's! The nerve! All my childhood memories were altered, twisted and sometimes discarded, all in a vain attempt to outsell Marvel which they could only do by either marrying him off or killing him!
Then, as a slap to my face, they brought back all the concepts that they said were too silly or convoluted in ways that were too silly or convoluted! See Red Kryptonite, Supergirl and Superboy joining the Legion!
It's interesting and makes a lot more sense so DC won't use it! :-)
Final Crisis as the DCOld's true finality is fitting. The Blackest Night/Brightest Day period made little sense, corrupted the past and made a lottery out of cheating death. All for storylines that will now never pay off. Too bad Flashpoint didn't immediately follow FC!
Actually I don't believe that Flashpoint destroyed the DCOld as much as created the DCnU. The previous DCUs still exist. We just don't read about them anymore but they are out there. Those adventures continue, though they can crossover into the current "reality". When a 2000-era Batman remembers meeting the Legion from a 70s comic, anything is possible!
I honestly think that over time, Final Crisis' reputation will grow. Especially considering the subject matter, its proximity to the ending of that whole era will mean that it will become associated with its end. The sheer weakness of much of what followed it will be a contributing factor too.
Its just funny that Morrison didn't know at the time that he was writing his own "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"
Artisticly, its the capstone of the era, containing the beginnings and endings of all things, great Superman and Batman moments, and ...er ... Wonder Woman in a gimp mask.
Maybe the story of Barry Allen's Ma being murdered is a profound masterpiece of the comic-crafter's art.
I haven't read it yet, but kinda doubt it...
Actually I don't believe that Flashpoint destroyed the DCOld as much as created the DCnU. The previous DCUs still exist. We just don't read about them anymore but they are out there.
A lovely idea. I'd love to see it used in such a way that we'd get to see the universe we have been reading for all these years finally get to grow and move on naturally. Dick Kyle and Wally can become the seniors for once and for all etc
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...Well , I was trying to , finally , get it up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)...........
ACTION #904 , about 3 months ago , would havew been the Mylar Age Supie's last chronological (non-Flashpoint) appearance...Has DC come up with any explanation for why , within the storyline , the Mylar Supie and his world had to die ???
On such do the fate of whole universes lie.
Here's a radical idea...
The DCU of your Mylar Superman (love that name) ended with Final Crisis in March 2009.
At the end of that series, Superman and his pals saw that their universe was ending, fatally stricken by entropy. They pack as much as they can of the people and values of their doomed universe, miniaturised, into life-raft style spaceships, so that something of them will continue in the new Universe that will follow theirs.
Very appropriate, no? And it has the advantage of being an ending that is epic in scope, emphasising the heroism and never-say-die loving guardianship of these wonderful heroes. Heroes that saw us through our twenties, and thirties and into middle age!
Better than the pathetic dying whimper they actually got on the way out in 2011, at any rate.
The only problem is that it all happened 2 years before the DCU actually ended.
Which is easily explained.
Final Crisis involved the complete breakdown of the fabric of time and space. It wasn't just the normal breakdown of time and space that accompanied every summer crossover since 1991. No, it caused grown fanmen to weep openly, gnash their teeth, and make judgements on the quantity of hallucinogens slipping down the gullet of a certain Scotsman we all know and love.
A two year time-bubble of pseudo-reality escaping during the existential maelstrom that Darkseid created would be quite plausible, in comicbooky science.
Superman saved the DCU and packed it away safely in March 2009 and what we were reading between then and September 2011 was just the echoes and aftershocks of that seismic event. A zombie universe, unaware that it was dead, merely going through the motions, with increasingly meaningless, desperate and pointless storylines as it tried to deny its own non-existence. This explains the ill-fated, futile "road to nowhere" false starts like JMS' projects and all those irrelevant new status quos set up in Brightest Day.
Final Crisis is your epic ending to a great fictional universe, saved at the last moment by John Byrne's Man of Steel!
Of course, they made so many changes to the Bryne Superman, or as I identified him as Superman III, that the Man of Steel from post-Zero Hour on could be referred to as Superman IV (The Quest for Fanboy Peace). Thus making the DCnU Action Ace Superman V (I Don't Wear Underoos!).
On a personal note, being there for Crisis On Infinite Earths and Man of Steel, I never fully understood why Superman and Wonder Woman's histories had to change so much while the rest of the JLA heroes stayed relatively intact. Except for poor Hawkman, though that was DC's fault!
This time around, the unknown, different, learn as we go backgrounds apply to everyone except Batman and Green Lantern.
What bothered me the most was how Byrne's Superman invaded Who's Who with his nascent version superceding MY Superman's! The nerve! All my childhood memories were altered, twisted and sometimes discarded, all in a vain attempt to outsell Marvel which they could only do by either marrying him off or killing him!
Then, as a slap to my face, they brought back all the concepts that they said were too silly or convoluted in ways that were too silly or convoluted! See Red Kryptonite, Supergirl and Superboy joining the Legion!
But I got over it.
Actually the post-Infinite Crisis Superman was a new one again too...
Never mind those old gripes. What about my Final Crisis theory of the end of the DCOld?
It's interesting and makes a lot more sense so DC won't use it! :-)
Final Crisis as the DCOld's true finality is fitting. The Blackest Night/Brightest Day period made little sense, corrupted the past and made a lottery out of cheating death. All for storylines that will now never pay off. Too bad Flashpoint didn't immediately follow FC!
Actually I don't believe that Flashpoint destroyed the DCOld as much as created the DCnU. The previous DCUs still exist. We just don't read about them anymore but they are out there. Those adventures continue, though they can crossover into the current "reality". When a 2000-era Batman remembers meeting the Legion from a 70s comic, anything is possible!
Just Imagine...
I honestly think that over time, Final Crisis' reputation will grow. Especially considering the subject matter, its proximity to the ending of that whole era will mean that it will become associated with its end. The sheer weakness of much of what followed it will be a contributing factor too.
Its just funny that Morrison didn't know at the time that he was writing his own "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"
Artisticly, its the capstone of the era, containing the beginnings and endings of all things, great Superman and Batman moments, and ...er ... Wonder Woman in a gimp mask.
Maybe the story of Barry Allen's Ma being murdered is a profound masterpiece of the comic-crafter's art.
I haven't read it yet, but kinda doubt it...
A lovely idea. I'd love to see it used in such a way that we'd get to see the universe we have been reading for all these years finally get to grow and move on naturally. Dick Kyle and Wally can become the seniors for once and for all etc
...WELL !!!!!!!!!!!:-) I'm happy to see this has gotten so much response !!!!!!!!!!!
While splitting the '86-'11 Supie into distinct parts is tempting , I think - possibly barring Figs' proposal - it should be seen as one era .
...I will say , Figs , I hope you aren't arguing for a " '09-'11 didn't ' really ' happen " interpretatiojn...........
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