DC has launched/is launching this September* 52 ongoing, monthly titles. That's 52 books that, in theory, should be at issue 12 at the start of September 2012.
But we've all been around long enough that we all know that's unlikely to happen, right? So here's the game: Take the 52 titles and plunk them into the following categories (or add your own category if there's something I missed):
-- Shipped on time: 12 issues in
-- Missed a month: 11 issues in
-- Missed two months: 10 issues in
-- Double-shipped: 13 issues in
-- Multiple double-ships: 14+ issues in
-- Cancelled already: The first casualties of the 52
It'll be fun to come back in a year and see how the reality stacks up against our best estimations.
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No trouble at all. Liefeld's art in this comic is a little more subdued and slightly more polished than in other works of his I've read. The opening story is nothing amazing, but with Hawk, Dove, and Deadman all in this book, it has some potential.
Whether the potential is reached, well, we can only wait and see. This was one of the lower-selling #1s from this week in my store.
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This just seemed to be the most "business as usual" book of the bunch so far. There was nothing new or exciting about it to me. I don't think Leifeld is a horrible artist, but he's certainly mundane. The scene where Hank smashes his glass on the floor and storms out of his dad's house was melodramatically silly. I don't care how old my kids are, if one of them smashes a glass on the floor in anger, I'm not letting him out until he gets out the broom and dustpan.
JeffCarter said:
My guesses...
Which book will miss a deadline first?
Hard to say, because besides the New 52, DC also has 16 reprint books, 7 Johnny DC titles, and 17 Vertigo releases just this month alone. Plus DC has a couple of mini-series scheduled to start next month and Mad magazine.
Canceled before completing its first year?
Based upon my personal tastes, I would hazard to guess either: Men of War, Blackhawk, OMAC, Frankenstein: Agent of S.H.A.D.E, or Red Hood and the Outlaws.
Based upon the public possibly not liking the new version, you can add DC Universe Presents (for anthologies don't do as well as they used to), All Star Western, Batgirl* (Gail Simone is a great writer, but is the public ready for Barbara Gordon to miraculously regain the use of her legs and the costume? Especially in light of the fact that the new DC still acknowledges events in The Killing Joke happened), Justice League Dark, Legion Lost (of course that one has a built in ending, they get found), and Hawkman to that list.
But James Robinson is supposed to be writing a new JSA series scheduled for next year, Grant Morrison is supposed to return for what is being referred to as Batman, Inc.: Season 2; and those can't be the only replacement series in the works.
*And for the record, I'm an every other week patron of my local comic book store, so unfortunately I have yet to read that one for myself or any of the other books on my revised subscription list since the start of the "new" DC U.
I liked this comic in the same way that I like Family Circus. I personally receive no inherent joy from it, but I'm happy that an audience exists in this world that would enjoy it. It makes me feel like the world is a bit less jaded than I, and I envy them in that. I may even continue to buy this just to support Rob Liefeld's work--because he is such a great and positive force in the comics world.
(That having been said, the panel that shows Dove and Deadman flying, where all you see are Deadman's head and shoulders and then his one thigh stemming downward...yeah, that one irritates me, but it is very Liefeld.)
Rich Lane said:
From Comic Shop News #1260, some information people might find interesting.
All are quotes from Dan DiDido in the section covering DC news from the San Diego Comics Convention.
*DC does have plans for Shazam! and the Marvel family. By the time the second wave of new DCU titles comes out, we should have something for the Marvel family to do.
Whether that means the 'midseason' replacements (something to replace whatever is cancelled) or after the second week of first issues is released remains to be seen.
*The DCU multiverse still exists. Grant Morrison's Multiversity, with the New Gods, will explore that multiverse in a major way.
Whether this means that the limited series is just the "big" event of 2012 or if something else is in the works remains to be seen also.
Let the guesses begin anew!
While I can't even begin to figure out what would ship late, or get extra issues, here's my "duration" predictions ...
(List copied from Girls Gone Geek)
Less than a year
Batwing #1, Judd Winick, Ben Oliver (Too high concept)
Captain Atom #1, JT Krul, Freddie Williams II (Rarely an interesting character)
Demon Knights #1, Paul Cornell, Diogenes Neves, Oclair Albert (Too high concept)
Green Lanterns: New Guardians #1, Tony Bedard, Tyler Kirkham, Batt (Blame Kyle)
Hawk And Dove #1, Sterling Gates, Rob Liefeld (Blame Rob, but a quick, high-profile creator change could save it.)
Suicide Squad #1, Adam Glass, Marco Rudy (Never gains much steam, replaced with Secret Six?)
Voodoo #1, Ron Marz, Sami Basri (Too obscure of a character)
18 issues
All-Star Western #1, Jimmy Palmiotti, Justin Grey , Moritat (Blame Anthology issues)
Animal Man #1, Jeff Lemire, Travel Foreman, Dan Green (Character never catches on)
DC Universe Presents #1, Paul Jenkins, Bernard Chang (Deadman can't carry a book, and neither will his replacement)
Frankenstein: Agent Of SHADE #1, Jeff Lemire, Alberto Ponticelli (Too high of a concept for DC)
Grifter #1, Nathan Edmondson , CAFU and BIT (Too Batmanish/Deadshotish)
Justice League Dark #1, Peter Milligan, Mikel Janin (Minimal DCU interaction)
Justice League International #1, Dan Jurgens, Aaron Lopresti (Big drop offs after its apparent its not Bwahaha)
Legion Lost #1, Fabian Nicieza, Pete Woods (Never captures mainstream DCU interest)
Men Of War #1, Ivan Brandon, Tom Derenick (Anthology issues)
Red Hood and The Outlaws #1, Scott Lobdell , Kenneth Rocafort (A bunch of throw away characters in one book)
Resurrection Man #1, Dan Abnet, Andy Lanning, Fernando Dagnino (Just a guess)
24 issues
Blackhawks #1, Mike Costa, Ken Lashley (Runs out of steam after a few good arcs)
Deathstroke #1, Kyle Higgins, Joe Bennett, Art Thibert (Not enough like the Punisher, too much like the an action movie)
Fury Of Firestorm #1, Gail Simone, Ethan Van Sciver (Character only lasts so long in any series)
Green Arrow #1, JT Krul, Dan Jurgens (Reborn as team/team-up book)
I, Vampire #1, Josh Fialkov, Andrea Sorrentino (Lasts until the final Twilight movie comes out)
OMAC #1, Dan DiDio, Keith Giffen, Scott Koblish (Survives cut offs thanks to DiDio)
Red Lanterns #1, Peter Milligan, Ed Benes, Rob Hunter (Just an uneducated guess)
Savage Hawkman #1, Tony Daniel, Philip Tan (Runs out of interesting stories after a few good arcs)
Static Shock #1, John Rozum, Scott McDaniel, Jonathan Glapion (Unable to capture an audience early on, but gets reprieves that allow it to last)
Superboy #1, Scott Lobdell, R.B. Silva, Rob Lean (Once initial concept is explored, it begins to crumble)
36 issues
Birds of Prey #1, Duane Swierczynski, Jesus Saiz (Lingering hope by old-time fans that it will be just like pre-Flashpoint series)
Blue Beetle #1, Tony Bedard, Ig Guara, Ruy Jose (Gets multiple reprieves)
Catwoman #1, Judd Winick, Guillem March (Always on brink of cancellation)
Mr. Terrific #1, Eric Wallace, Roger Robinson (Gets really good reviews, but never seems to gain steam, multiple reprieves.)
50 issues
Aquaman #1, Geoff Johns, Ivan Reis
Batgirl #1, Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf, Vicente Cifuentes
Swamp Thing #1, Scott Snyder, Yanick Paquette
Supergirl #1, Michael Green, Mike Johnson, Mahmud A. Asrar
75 issues
Batwoman #1 , J.H. Williams III, Haden Blackman, Amy Reeder
Green Lantern Corps #1, Peter Tomasi, Fernando Pasarin, Scott Hanna
Legion of Superheroes #1, Paul Levitz, Francis Portela
Stormwatch #1, Paul Cornell, Miguel Sepulveda
150 issues
Batman: The Dark Knight #1, David Finch
Batman and Robin #1, Peter Tomasi, Patrick Gleason
Teen Titans #1, Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth, Norm Rapmund
Continous
Action Comics #1, Grant Morrison, Rags Morales
Batman #1, Scott Snyder, Greg Capullo
Detective Comics #1, Tony Daniel
Flash #1, Brian Buccellato, Francis Manapul
Green Lantern #1, Geoff Johns, Doug Mahnke, Christian Alamy
Justice League #1, Geoff Johns, Jim Lee
Nightwing #1, Kyle Higgins, Eddy Barrows
Superman #1, George Pérez, Jesus Merino
Wonder Woman #1, Brian Azzarello, Cliff Chiang
Although I'm predicting a slew of cancellations in the first two years, I would say DC will say anything 24 issues and higher is a "Good run" for a character, and I agree.
And I don't think all these creators will last the entire runs either.
Pretty much anything in the "Continuous" list will be deemed "Too Important To Fail" by the DC brass. Yeah, I suppose Nightwing is at that level now.
Dear Lumbering Jack:
The only thing I would dispute is calling Arsenal and (especially) Starfire "throwaway characters"" in your description of Red Hood and the Outlaws.
I personally feel these two are getting the short end of a very non-deserved stick and wish DC would treat them better.
Perhaps in the "second wave"?
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