I don't know if we have any threads on Fear the Walking Dead Season 7. I went back four pages and didn't see one.
And that is already more effort than this TV show deserves.
I just watched the last three episodes, and MY GOD this is the worst TV I've ever watched. It's worse than Room 222! It's worse than Trapper John M.D.! It's worse than The Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island put together!
Every single person responsible for this show should be lined up at a wall and shot.
But no, they will be elevated for working on this show to other shows, and afflict us with their terrible TV show mentality forever. Every single effing day of my life, these people will be creating TV shows that should be good, but will be terrible, and be on my TV, and I will have to make an effort to avoid them.
Because these people don't care about me. They live in a bubble that says what they do is GOOD, and not AWFUL, which is how the rest of us see it..And they will make more money in a year than I will in a lifetime and the will PUT THIS CRAP IN FRONT OF MY FACE FOREVER.
I just watched a show where a woman who should be dead from radiation poisoning is somehow alive, forever, and also pregnant, and now having a baby, who is going to die, because RADIATION POISONING and ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE but somehow she's not going to die, nor is the baby (due to radiation poisoning or lack of medical care) but the baby is going to die anyway (when it should be the mother who dies) and we spend AN ENTIRE EFFING EPISODE with FUTURE baby, who is all grown up and is awesome and isn't that grand, except she's going to die, so WTF?
GOD. That's a bad episode. Of anything.
Jesus Christ, y'all, this isn't an episode of Frasier. But that's what they gave us: A dream sequence from Frasier. And they sold it to us as a Very Important Episode of The TV Show That I'm Watching.
It was utterly meaningless, vis-a-vis the ongoing story. It was utterly stupid, logic-wise. And it was utterly insulting in the way it tried to play our emotions for something that isn't and can't happen.
That's it. I am never watching this stupid show again. Or any other show these creators are involved in.
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I no longer number The Walking Dead among my "Favorite Shows" (such as This Is Us, Young Sheldon and Resident Alien); it has now been relegated to the status of "Shows I Watch" (such as those superhero shows). I no lomger even differentiate between the original show and the spin-offs; it's just "The Walking Dead" to me. (It's "dead to me." Heh.) Honestly, I do not dislike it as vehemently as you do. I kind of liked the episode in which [SPOILER] Dorie was killed, [END SPOILER] Regarding the "Dead Future Baby" episode, there were aspects of that one I liked as well. Yes, it utterly shatters one's willing sense of disbelief that Grace could have survived but, right up until the very end, I was kept guessing as to which one of four possible outcomes would prove true: either 1) the mother dies, 2) the baby dies, 3) both die, or 4) both live. Just that (reality aside) kept me invested in the outcome. Now, cynic that I am, I would have changed it so that the baby was born a boy.
I do think it was an odd choice that they chose to run two such similar episodes (Daniel's delusions followed by Grace's delusions) back-to-back. At one point in the "Daniel" episode, Tracy gasped. that was enough to focus my attention on the screen. I saw what she reacted to, but I probably wouldn't have noticed it otherwise. She said it was the second time that episode and, when the episode was over, she went back to show me. Sure enough, in two different scenes, tow different walkers are flashing the "white power" symbol. WTF!? Once I cold chalk up to coincidence (that the walker's hand made something that looked like the sign), but twice? As Goldfinger said: "Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; the third time it's enemy action."
So, it it two (or perhaps one, dressed differently) sneaking something past the producers? Or is it something sneaked in by the director? Is it a subtle message (such as "white supremacists are zombies)? Or is it all in our minds? Tracy has checked social media and no on else seems to have caught it. I'll see if she has some screen shots to post.
Finally, Cap, if you do decide not to watch this show (these shows) anymore, I will be disappointed. I look forward to your rants more than watching The Talking Dead. But if it's really driving you nuts, well, do what's best for you.
Thanks, Tracy.
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I was also intrigued enough by the unusual story telling to get some enjoyment out of the episode. But I agree that it was pretty pointless in terms of advancing the story of the series as a whole.
I have questions about the Daniel episode. It looked as though Daniel was being gaslighted...but I guess we were seeing everything through his eyes. In other words, he actually remembered events differently than they happened.
Yes, Daniel ... once the most interesting character on the show.
What if there's an apocalypse, and in your new found family ... one of them is a killer? Sure, he's trying to play barber. But the mean is still in him. God knows what he'll do if pushed far enough. Maybe he'll ...
... be utterly defanged, and just be a happy old man. Hey, even that blood feud he had with the con man is water under the bridge. No need for all that drama on a drama show. Live and let live, man, or even un-live. It's all positive vibes, baby.
Oh, and speaking of the con man ... we keep hearing how clever he is, so when is he going to do something clever? Instead of speaking stentorally? I know, he threw that whiner to the walkers, but that wasn't clever, it was just ruthless. Which, I have to say, is a refreshing change from all the earnestness. Especially from ...
Morgan. Who used to be my favorite character till he got all preachy. What's with all "We don't kill" business? You certainly do. If you really believe that, when is Charlie going to see consequences for murdering Nick? Or Dakota for murdering John Dorie? Dude, even your minors are killers.
At least now we know what Lionel Luthor would do in the apocalypse.
*Sigh* Yes, I have to watch. I'm not a masochist; it's genre stuff, and I write about genre stuff. I can't just ignore it.
So what was this week?
Let's replace John Dorie, played by excellent character actor Garret Dillahunt, with his ... father? Played by one of the worst actors of the '80s, Keith Carradine?
I remember first seeing this particular Carradine in a made-for-TV movie called Southern Comfort in 1981, which I watched specifically for him. Appointment TV, back when you actually had to be present to see something! I was familiar with his lineage from old B&W movies, of many genres, but Universal-style "horror" most of all. Couldn't wait. Then he appeared and ... wow, he was a terrible actor. I didn't even stay for the end.
Here we are 40 years later, and he's still a terrible actor.
I felt sorry for Jenna Elfman, who is a decent actress. I don't know if she's great; I mean, she could be, but all I've seen her in is Dharma and Greg and this show. Which at least shows range. And I'm never going to judge her by Fear the Walking Dead, given how dreadful the plots and dialogue are. Especially this episode. Watch her scenes, listen to the words she has to give emotional weight to, and feel for her.
I did. I felt sorry for her.
And for most of her scenes, she had to act across from Carradine, who gives every line of dialogue equal weight, and none of that weight has any weight. My dogs are better actors, especially when they want treats. Poor Jenna had to do one two-way scene after another with this guy.
Then there's the woman who plays Cherry. Or is it Sherry? I don't know, don't care. She has exactly one emotional setting, and I can't tell if she's mad or happy or sexy or what. Her expression never changes, and it's a sort of maybe-I'm-mad-or-just-latge-for-an-appointment-but-whatever-get-out-of-my-way. She has zero chemistry with anyone, especially Dwight, so if I were him I'd get a hint, but no, evidently she does care for him, but I simply couldn't tell. Or maybe it was that tree over there she cared for. Can't tell.
She is also small-breasted, which is fine. But it's laughable, and irritating, if I cared about this show any more, that she's always wearing some sort of super-duper bra technology in every scene. Because yeah, when you're in the zombie apocalypse, and you don't have access to even basic hygiene, and you are facing road gangs and killers and rapists, your highest priority is obviously going to be low-cut tops and push-up bras.
Guh. Hate this show. Haaaate.
But did I mention plot? Yeah. This one involves ... oh, stuff too stupid to discuss.
Like not only do we stumble across Dorie's father, but that he's got a murder board looking for Lionel Luthor, and he's a cop who's been chasing him for 40 years. And he knows all about him. How convenient!
And Jenna and her jacket, which has a letter from John, which she doesn't read right away, but loses, but gets it back, in a series of ridiculous coincidences that are all treated like with the seriousness of Christ rising from the grave. And lo, in that letter, he specifically mentions his heretofore unmentioned father, who happens to now be standing right there, and pretty much says, "Hey, everybody, my dad's replacing me, so let's all give him a round of applause."
Then there's Sherry. Whose awfulness I can't begin to address. She left a clue for Dwight that required him to check the VIN of every car in Texas to find the next clue, which said to me, "Dude, she's not that into you," but this show said, "Dude, she is really into you." And everybody else on the show, including the people who are supposed to be sensible, agreed. Huh.
Then when he did find her, she's all, "I'm an Amazon warrior now so step off, but I'll still lead you on now and then." Man, I've dated some psycho women, and that is a psycho woman. Back away slowly, Dwight, just back away.
But no! She's a sincere and awesome gal who is just effed up by her anger at Negan. Understandable! Last week, I was mad about somebody at work, and killed my wife. It happens.
No, wait, it doesn't. So now Sherry is excused from all of her terrible actions because a man was mean to her. So there you go! All Explained! Of course, I can't tell from her face, which is Botox Central. But everybody else is all like, "Great! She's not psycho any more!"
The writing on this show is terrible. In the real world, after the first conversation Dwight had with Sherry after he'd pursued her across half of America in dangerous apocalypse and she said, "Eh, what the heck are you doing here, I'm busy," he should have said, "Welp, live and learn" and gone back to Virginia. But no, he follows this terrible actress around until she finally comes around, because the script says so. But even when she does it, I don't believe it, and Dwight shouldn't either. But the script says he must.
This is bad acting 101. Compounded by Scripts So Bad Even Jenna Elfman Can't Save Them.
Do you disagree? Please, please, disagree! Tell me where I'm wrong! I welcome argument. Someone tell me this isn't as bad as it seems.
"Do you disagree? Please, please, disagree! Tell me where I'm wrong! I welcome argument. Someone tell me this isn't as bad as it seems."
I wish I could. All I can say is that it doesn't put me off as much as it does you. It used to be I'd... well, "like" may be too strong a word, but "get used to"... Fear while the original was off the air. Then the original would come back and I'd realize how much better it was than the spin-off. But that doesn't happen anymore. All I can say is that, for me, TWD has homogenized itself to a single thing, with no one show being any better than the other two. Fear and Beyond have gotten (slightly) better (in my estimation), but TWD has gotten worse. Sometimes (and this is true) I even forget which show I'm watching sometimes. I am at the point now where I don't ever care what happened to Rick.
Hoo boy. I can hardly wait to read your reaction to last night's episode. (Then again, if it's going to make you crazy, skip it.) I'll tell you... the Walking Dead universe scratches the same part of my brain that comic books do. It started off as Lee & Kirby, but Lee & Kirby aren't doing the books no more. Yet you keep one reading (or, in this case, watching) out of inertia or that hope that recapturing glories past or whatever. In that noght's episode, some of the characters made some stupid (STUPID!) decisions. The show may be crap now in comparison to the original series' glory days, but that's true of comic books, too. (Sturgeon's law applies.) But do i stop reading comic books? No, I do not (not entirely, anyway), and I'm not going to stop watching TWD universe, either... although, at this point, I may be the (close to) only one.
Yesterday I said I don't care what has happened to Rick. You know what else I don't care about? A spin-off featuring Carol and Darryl. How boring would that be? No, what I want to see is a spin-off starring Teddy and Dakota. That would be interesting and that would be a show I think I would enjoy.
Why I will never be allowed to write The Walking Dead: I would have Hercules come to Earth to help the mortals fight the Walkers.
Maybe you should.
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