Issue #1
- Barry Allen describes himself as "retired". Is this some development that I missed, or is this meant to be "future" Barry?
- Barry seems to have a large collections of "trophies" from various heroes and villlains. I wonder how he obtained all that stuff?
- Who's the World Forger? Never heard of them. Also never heard that Perpetua was the Monitors' mother.
- Never heard of the Spectre's real name being "Aztar".
- "Ktar Deathbringer and Shrra served an ancient force of evil before being redeemed and reincarnated..." Do we know who this {force of evil" was?
- "Merlin anointed a second Shining Knight"... This appears to be the Shining Knight from Morrison's Seven Soldiers, but if I'm recalling correctly, she was supposed to be from ancient, pre-Arthurian times, so this would appear to be an alteration of her backstory.
- Never heard of these "Demon Knights".
- No sign of the Trigger Twins on the "western Heroes" page.
- No sign of the original Red Tornado, either.
- So Hippolyta is still the Golden Age Wonder Woman? Somehow, I thought that they'd re-written it so that Diana was back in nthe Golden Age again.
- Why is the Invisible Hood being called "Invisible Justice" now?
- Also never heard of this "Justice Alliance" consisting of Captain Comet, Prine Ra-Man, Automan, Tiger-Man and Congorilla.
- Putting Niles Caulder, Will Magnus, Martin Stein and Simon Stagg together as "The Supermen Project" feels like they're trying to create a DC version of the guys who ended up creating Adam Warlock.
Otherwise, most of the rest of the stuff is as I remembered it.
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If it helps, that happened in the 2019-2020 LSH series and was concluded by the time of 2020's "Superman #29", perhaps a bit before that even.
Before that, variations of the same plot happened with Cable in 1994 and for a presumably (but not definitely) much shorter time with Kon-El in the 2004, when he put the Titans in contact with the LSH and briefly "deputized" the Titans into the LSH.
Supergirl (2005) is now considered to be the original, resurrected
I'm not as familiar with this version of the character as you are, but my recollectionis that she was more"alien" and contemptuous of humans , so I don't know how you'd reconcile that with her being the original version.
There's artificial aging of Damien mentioned, too. Nothing good ever comes of looking too closely at the ages of children in comics.
I also don't remember Donna Troy's death.
It's good to see Milestone incorporated into the regular DCU. I'd like to see more of that, if contracts make it possible.
I'm surprised 52 didn't get much of a mention, to be honest -- though I haven't yet gotten to that point in the backmatter, so maybe it's there. (Edit: It is.)
Next issue is the one I'm really looking forward to. What recent events are the most important for the modern DCU to build from? And will Wildstorm characters ever show up?
Nothing good ever comes of looking too closely at the ages of children in comics.
...except in Trinity: Daughter of Wonder Woman, which is simply delightful!
I also don't remember Donna Troy's death.
As I mentioned, she was resurrected in The Return of Donna Troy. She was actually killed in
Be happy you don't remember it, take my word for it.
It's good to see Milestone incorporated into the regular DCU.
Agreed. I've been thinking about it, and the one thing I can't wrap my head around is this attempt to make the original and the current Supergirl one and the same person. I was practically weaned on the concept of multiple Earths, and I have no trouble with the idea of pre- and post-crisis realities (whatever the "crisis" in question happens to be). It doesn't bother me that Peter David's version is played down in the current DCU; it still exists in my longboxes. Personally I'd be just as happy if DC were to relegate the 2003 version to the same limbo as the "Matrix" version, rather than saying the original was resurrected by Darkseid. Those of you who read my posts know I love "Supergirl (2025)," but I am perfectly content in the belief that the current version of Supergirl bears striking similarities to the Silver Age version, without overturning her sacrifice in CoIE.
What recent events are the most important for the modern DCU to build from?
I should have also mentioned that Doomsday Clock is out, and "the pounding of Superboy's fists" is back in.
I'm not as familiar with this version of the character as you are, but my recollectionis that she was more"alien" and contemptuous of humans...
You're exactly right. Not only is the 2005 Supergirl's backstory wholly irreconcilable with the original's, but I can't see her "becoming" the 2025 version, either. These are wholly different characters, and I am all right with that. Blending two or more of them together doesn't make the character stronger, it makes her weaker.
...so I don't know how you'd reconcile that with her being the original version.
I know you mean not me personally, but Mark Waid and DC. his approach seems to be to list everything that ever happened in the DCU chronologically, maintaining that it all occurred in the same universe, and leaving individual readers to sort it out for themselves. that's a perfectly cromulent approach, I suppose, but in my personal head canon, I relegate storylines such as "Doomsday," "Knightfall" and "Emerald Twilight" to a previous version of the DCU, one of the many previous versions which have sprung up since the the original Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Well, you know that I like making up my own timelines, anyway, so I have no problem with picking and choosing what I want to accept as "continuity". If I don't like a particular version of a character, or a particular storyline, out it goes.