Secret Empire 0 pulls together threads from several different books which constitute the prologue. They are conveniently laid out here:

I only read the Steve Rogers issue and didn’t really feel like I needed to read the rest to follow what was going on in Secret Empire 0. In Steve Rogers 16 we see Cap’s secret plan start to coalesce as Hydra seeks to reassemble the Cosmic Cube without reawakening Kobik and Zemo appears to kill Bucky.


This brings us to Secret Empire 0 wherein it is outlined that the Cosmic Cube was apparently created by American scientists during the World War II era and used to create the reality that we know as the original Marvel Universe.  Hyrdra’s plan is to use Cap to “undo” that “fake” reality and restore the “true” reality in which Hydra conquers the world.  So they appear to be telling us that the entire Marvel Universe is all just one big EYKIW.

On the other hand, we are still getting the intro text page telling us that Kobik has rewritten reality.  In which case this whole Captain Hydra saga is just one big bad dream that can be Bobby Ewinged out of existence at any time.

In the meantime Nick Spencer has started knocking down the dominos that he has nicely put into place over the last year or so.  This isn’t just a bunch of random stuff thrown together to sell a summer crossover. There appears to have actually been a lot of planning that went into this.

Here’s the way it will unfold going forward:

It doesn't appear that there are too many tie-ins or spin-offs, although I suppose that could change but so far I'm on board for the main series and probably Uprising as well.

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In the words of Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove. "they're polluting our precious bodily fluids!"



Captain Comics said:

Flouride? Chemtrails? Man! Somebody's been watching a lot of "InfoWars"! Toss in a Clintons-committed-murder conspiracy, and it's the far-right tinfoil-hat crowd's hat trick!

I love those chemtrail people.  Somehow the chemtrails are always affecting everyone else but not the people who "know" about them.

  Thats the problem about something that affects everyone: no one can say that it doesn't.

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Captain Comics said:

Flouride? Chemtrails? Man! Somebody's been watching a lot of "InfoWars"! Toss in a Clintons-committed-murder conspiracy, and it's the far-right tinfoil-hat crowd's hat trick!

I love those chemtrail people.  Somehow the chemtrails are always affecting everyone else but not the people who "know" about them.

Bleeding Cool says the one permanent change from Secret Empire is that Black Widow will stay dead, at Captain America's hand That is the exactly the one thing from this detestable "event" that I wanted reversed, as I said earlier in this thread.

I'm racking my brain, but I can't think of any way that Marvel can make their universe any less appealing to me. Spider-Man used to be my favorite character, but that character is long gone. My second favorite was Captain America, who has now become a fascist and killed my third favorite, Black Widow.

l stopped reading Amazing Spider-Man when they changed that character beyond recognition. I stopped reading the X-books when they killed off all my favorite characters, and raised the profile of C-list characters i wasn't interested in reading about. They created a whole line of Inhumans books I would treat as radioactive if I didn't have to write columns about them. Now they're making the Avengers books something I'm not interested in reading.

I detect a trend.

 On the other hand Cap if it wasn't working would they still be doing it?  If the events and character trashing weren't bringing in customers why would they keep at it?  

Captain Comics said:

Bleeding Cool says the one permanent change from Secret Empire is that Black Widow will stay dead, at Captain America's hand That is the exactly the one thing from this detestable "event" that I wanted reversed, as I said earlier in this thread.

I'm racking my brain, but I can't think of any way that Marvel can make their universe any less appealing to me. Spider-Man used to be my favorite character, but that character is long gone. My second favorite was Captain America, who has now become a fascist and killed my third favorite, Black Widow.

l stopped reading Amazing Spider-Man when they changed that character beyond recognition. I stopped reading the X-books when they killed off all my favorite characters, and raised the profile of C-list characters i wasn't interested in reading about. They created a whole line of Inhumans books I wouldn't treat as radioactive if I didn't have to write columns about them. Now they're making the Avengers books something I'm not interested in reading.

I detect a trend.

Is it working though? Aren't sales down significantly for Marvel.

If they really are planning on leaving Natasha dead, I think that's really short sighted., especially given her popularity in the movies. Not that that matters at all, but it just seems a bad choice to kill off the character now.

  Yes, but it forms the fuel for an angst engine for Cap.  He can look very tortured about her death even though he didn't do it.  

  I don't know if sales are up or down for marvel, I don't think anyone but marvel knows and I really don't think they'd tell us if sales were down.  Every event has to be a success or they admit they are doing it wrong.

Randy Jackson said:

Is it working though? Aren't sales down significantly for Marvel.

If they really are planning on leaving Natasha dead, I think that's really short sighted., especially given her popularity in the movies. Not that that matters at all, but it just seems a bad choice to kill off the character now.

I guess it's a sign of the times, but the news that Cap has killed Black Widow makes me feel like they've got plans for Black Widow. Whereas, say, the death of Wasp a number of years ago seemed more like they'd run out of things to say with Janet van Dyne. Natasha is SO high-profile now that her death just seems like a step in her story, not an end to it. 

That sounds likely, Rob.

In recent months DC had supplanted Marvel at the top of the sales charts because of the success of Rebirth. It looks like things may be starting to normalize a bit though. The sad thing is that the top of the sales charts always seems to be dominated by event books and new #1s thus insuring that we'll continue to get more of those.  The only big seller that seems to consistently defy that pattern is Walking Dead. Even the Star Wars books, which outdo a lot of the superhero stuff, keep putting out new #1s.

Hasn't Natasha stopped being the Widow before? Should we expect a new "temporary" to turn up while they figure out what to do about her?

Kinda frustrating too.  Death is so overly used in comics it's become no more than a marketing ploy.

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That sounds likely, Rob.

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