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A few random Doom Patrol thoughts that occurred to me:1) People sometimes comment on Elasti-Girl getting the shaft as the distaff member of the group. Not outwardly a freak and the only one who…Continue
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Gene Phillips replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"Writer/artists can write the story on the page as they draw it, or work from a plot in their heads. Kirby's solo work was apparently done this way in the 1970s. I can't point to a pre-Silver Age story done this way, but I would…"
Richard Willis replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"Luke Blanchard said:
Larry Lieber has said he worked full script with Kirby, and Lieber scripted Thor's and Ant-Man's early appearances. Kirby may not have been deeply invested in "Thor" at that stage. Kirby did work…"
Captain Comics replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"The very young Li'l Capn really liked Doom Patrol. Drake's deliberately Marvel-esque writing and Premiani's unique art -- I loved how Robotman looked like "soft" metal, and Premiani's machines were wonderfully retro and…"
Jeff of Earth-J replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!""Doctor Solar didn't get his visor costume until Doctor Solar #5 in Jun. 1963, a month before the X-Men's debut."
I was thinking there was more lead time than that. I hadn't considered that Doctor Solar didn't debut…"
doc photo replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"Funny that this topic should come up now. I just started reading The Doom Patrol: The Silver Age volume 1. Even though my personal Golden Age was in the mid to late Sixties, I read very little DP material, so these stories are new to me. I credit…"
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"I'd be happy to argue Thor was based on the Fox Thor. He initially had long hair, and a comparable helmet. The catch with that is it's hard to believe Lee had old Fox comics in the cupboard and went through them looking for…"
Luis Olavo de Moura Dantas replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"I just had to check the publishing dates, because the realization struck me that Mento resembles Professor X in a way that the Chief does not.
As it turns out, his debut has the same cover month as X-Men #8.
As for Rita, I seem to recall that there…"
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"Fred W. Hill said:
In Origins of Marvel Comics, he would talk about The Spider from the 1930s but make no mention of the Silver Spider created by Simon & Kirby just a few years earlier... Of course, ultimately what matters is not the source…"
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"When you start looking at where the ideas came from, sometimes there's a surfeit of possibilities. Thor's precursors include Fox's Thor and the Thor who fought Batman in Batman #127. Blake's lameness looks like a debt to…"
Randy Jackson replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"I'm pretty confident that this was Morrison's run. I believe that's when it was established that the Chief had engineered the "accidents" thatgave the members of the team their powers. I know it was the case by Rachel…"
Richard Willis replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"Luke Blanchard said:
According to Mike's Amazing World of DC the DP's debut in My Greatest Adventure #80 went on sale Apr. 18 1963, and The X-Men #1 Jul. 2. I suspect Marvel could've turned an issue around in that time, if the…"
Fred W. Hill replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"I've read about the similarities between the Golden Age Comet and Cyclops too, Luke, but then the eye-beams was also just one of Superman's various powers, although he had absolute control over his eye-beams. I have a hunch both…"
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"According to Mike's Amazing World of DC the DP's debut in My Greatest Adventure #80 went on sale Apr. 18 1963, and The X-Men #1 Jul. 2. I suspect Marvel could've turned an issue around in that time, if the title was already on…"
Luke Blanchard replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"According to Mike's Amazing World of DC the DP's debut in My Greatest Adventure #80 went on sale Apr. 18 1963, and The X-Men #1 Jul. 2.
I suspect Marvel could've turned an issue around in that time, if it was already on the…"
Gene Phillips replied to Chris Freiberg's discussion The World's Strangest Heroes... The Doom Patrol!"I agree that there's no way to know, but I've always thought "Brotherhood of Evil" is more likely to have been conceived first, and "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" came a little later, despite the fact that both magazines…"
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